Mashed Potatoes - The Hugo Combo, setups and character specific tech thread

Deezxnutzz · August 11, 2014, 4:32am

ShADoW_NoBODy:

Yes Every reversal that’s 8+ frames of start-up is safe to do against.
That’s why vs honda and rufus they have to take it.
If honda does EX Headbutt it gets Ex BB OS. If he does Ex Ochio the meaty hits him out of it. If he does Ex Butt slam the OS will grab him. Backdash gets thrown as well meaning he has to take it unless he wants to try it hoping you messed up on your timing as it’s kind of strict vs him.

Rufus Ex Messiah will be thrown by Ex BB Os as well. Backdash gets caught. Snake strike gets hit meaty, but for some reason EX Snake Strike wasn’t activating the OS and he would go flying up and you could block it. Wake up Ultra 1 would actually hit though lol.

OS Ex BB Loses to Fuerte’s EX Legs (probably one of the characters you have to do safe jumps on TBH just because his reversal options are weird)

Also a note for those that don’t know Clap is considered a projectile and Vs Vega on knockdown I’d say go for the safe jump set-ups off hits instead of meaty claps that way he loses his reversals.

What’s the order of inputs ya do for the setup? Meaty HP Clap, OS EX BB then hold back to block?

Z_Tier_Hugo · August 14, 2014, 11:51am

Is it just me or is connecting U2 after Super (not after Ultra Throw -> Claps -> Super) kinda hard when not near the corner?

DBZ_numba1Fan · August 14, 2014, 12:39pm

I think its a lil bit easier then doing it in the corner , but thats just me. Also, ground Super>U2 only works on a few characters. Juggle Super>U2 works on alot of characters. Wat i do is during the super (since it takes so long) is i keep doing the U2 motion so my hand can get the feeling down and then when i see him coming to the right spot i input the buttons, its easier for me to connect it, its just something i do to get the feel for it

Z_Tier_Hugo · August 15, 2014, 12:36am

Well okay, i managed to land it.

Hp.Clap -> Mp.Clap -> Lp.Clap -> Super -> U2

Did it on Boxer near the corner, does 693 Damage.

I am not sure, i think i did it on Ryu too but the most damage i could do on him was 663 so maybe it was a different combo i can’t really remember.

Anyway, i have yet to find a Red Focus combo that does more damage than the simple 3 Clap Super.

The most damaging one i got (without Ultra) is Hp.Clap -> Mp.Clap -> RF -> Mp.Clap -> EX.Clap -> Lp.Clap -> cr.Lk -> Lk.Lariat for 497 damage.

3nigmat1c · August 15, 2014, 10:03am

Hadn’t seen it mentioned, but just in case it hasn’t been:

AA ex.lariat puts opps into a free juggle state, so AA ex.lariat, FA (hit), bb/ex.bb/U2/st.mp
AA ex.lariat, red focus, puts opponent into spinning juggle state, so AA ex.lariat, RF (hit), lp.clap xx U2

I did this on Adon (for testing). Don’t know if its character specific, but i’m pretty sure it isn’t.

Z_Tier_Hugo · August 15, 2014, 1:13pm

Did the three Claps into Super on a crouching Rose and it whiffed.
You have to cancel the Super from something (like cr.Lk) after the Lp.Clap or it will whiff.
Don’t know if it whiffs on other characters too but i am pretty sure there are more.

Pappus · August 18, 2014, 5:09pm

Are you sure that hits? When I tried normal Focus I could only get a HP Clap with the enemy standing after a level 3 focus. A level 2 focus never yielded the same result. Red focus should follow the same rules and therefore only MP clap would work reducing it to 6 as we know it.

EBENEZER_GOOD · August 18, 2014, 9:52pm

Deleted - misread previous post

Doopliss · August 18, 2014, 9:55pm

Only MP connects after EX RFA, yes.

3nigmat1c · August 19, 2014, 1:50am

anyone do any significant work with stun combos after meat squasher (ala 3S?). I saw desk stun with meat squasher and still connect the st.mp afterwards which I assume maintains the stun, does st.lp xx super maintain the stun (e.g. meat squasher <<stun>> st.lp xx super (super completes) <<still stun>> insert combo). GIVEN they’d should be very dead by that point, but i’m curious.

SimSimIV · August 19, 2014, 2:21am

This is a good idea, but My bet is on the st.lp making them leave stun so that the super still combos, but they are out of stun when it’s done! Will check it out though!

3nigmat1c · August 19, 2014, 2:57am

okay, confirmed, st.lp will air reset off of meat squasher stun but will still hit (so st.mp is best in this case for damage, but not for scaling if it an issue which it probably is). BUT the back breaker after super can stun, so you can get close to stun, then cr.lp xx super, then link bb or cancel into bb and THAT can stun into whatever combo, with like 45% scaling give or take.

Angerus · August 20, 2014, 3:17pm

I’m not sure if someone already posted a list like this, but I’ve compiled one that shows on what characters’ fireballs Hugo can jump on and block.
This inspired me: [details=Spoiler]

http://i.minus.com/ixkgsFsKX2ZxD.gif

[/details]

Empty jump on fireballs

Works on:

Akuma
Chun Li
Deejay
Dhalsim
Evil Ryu
Guile
Juri’s low fireball
Ken
Oni
Sagat LTS
Sakura
Ryu

Doesn’t work on:

[details=Spoiler]- Cody

Dan
Decapre
Gouken
Poison
Rose
Sagat HTS & U2
Seth
Juri’s other fireballs[/details]

crazydiamond · August 21, 2014, 5:22am

I don’t think he can empty jump and get a free block. It’s that his hurt box is different to what his animation indicates.

If I’m wrong please let me know though.

Angerus · August 24, 2014, 8:02pm

@crazydiamond‌ Just letting you know that you can empty jump and get a free block.
You can even jump on Deejay’s EX air slasher and block both hits when landing in between hits.

crazydiamond · August 25, 2014, 12:18am

Wow that’s cool. So that means Hugo can jump risk free for those projectiles.

Can anyone else in the game do this?

Tom · August 25, 2014, 3:19am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPiZ-va1Ql0

Doopliss · August 25, 2014, 3:41am

I think DeeJay can do it against Dhalsim, but it might be neutral jump only.

King9999 · August 25, 2014, 6:43am

I just learned that Meat Squasher shuts down all of Balrog’s rush punches.

crazydiamond · August 25, 2014, 11:50pm

Good tech!