Marvel's Netflix Universe: Return of the Kingpin

It’s the greatest bromance in the history of comic books.

This is right.

Instead of making Iron Fist white Marvel did the right thing and kept leveling up and de-stereotyping Shang Chi into an actual character.

All they need to do now is keeping pushing him

I’ll reserve final judgement for when i see iron fist, but the trailers are absolutely terrible. I don’t like the iron fist actor literally right off the bat. Can’t put my finger on why, he just seems weak/stereotypically bad. The Asian chick couldn’t act in her fight scene, don’t know if it’s her acting or the directing or writing or cheorography or all of the above… I just get a legend of Chun li feel from that fight scene.

And I loved the chicks in crouching tiger hidden dragon… but what I’ve seen so far pales in comparison.

Hopefully the iron fist character is more developed than what we see on the trailer. It would be a tragedy to follow up the awesomeness of Luke cage with a terrible iron fist.

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I mean it wouldn’t be so bad if the IF actor looked like a bad ass, but he looks the type of dude to sit outside a cafe with his hipster/sjw laptop eating yogurt and muesli.

It’s liking going back to emo Spider-Man/tobey maguire and giving him iron fists… just looks really ridiculous in the context that was shown.

It’s hard for Marvel to push Shang-Chi because he’s tied to a character they don’t own.

Daredevil is already garbage, but at least entertaining garbage.
Iron Fist looks like it’s completely worthless.

He can’t start off a total bad ass or else there is no where for him to really grow.

I must be forgetting something, who?

Nowadays he runs with Sunspot.

Fu Manchu. He’s Shang-Chi dad. Can’t go into Shang’s history and motivation into becoming a hero without him.

Marvel could just use the Zheng Zu name and make some reference to Fu Manchu.

I heard Danny Rand does a bit too much mansplaining. Ouch, get rekt Netflix Kappa
EDIT: 14% on RT ooooph!

Finn Jones just too bitch made to be believable. In all the preview stuff and the interviews I knew I just couldnt get behind this guy. Was gunna give it a chance considering how wrong I got it with Jon Bernthal cast as Punisher but naw, IF gunna be LC tier garbage. :coffee:

A damn shame.

Honestly I stopped being hype for this when Finn was announced.

Even before then I had zero faith in them actually handling this story well.

I will attempt to binge this when it drops. Critics only have the first 6 episodes, and even if a show is bad, I can suffer at least 7. But the things I’m hearing in these reviews outside all the SJW bullshit really are sounding like Scott Buck’s cloud of fuckery coming to rain on things. I speak as a Dexter* survivor here: if these criticisms are valid, things will only get worse for the remaining episodes.

*Buck was around for seasons 1-5, but show-ran Dexter for seasons 6-8. Season 6 was shit. Season 7 was decent, but season 8 was probably one of the worst final seasons for a show ever.

Spoiler

Quite a few of the reviews touch on some main points have me worried.
-They focus too much on Danny Rand trying to get control of the company back. Focusing on plotlines that aren’t interesting hurt Dexter a lot (especially in Season 8). Rand vying for company control isn’t unimportant, but do we really care about it that much in a series that’s supposed to have a bunch of cool Kung-Fu fighting stuff and Rand fighting the Hand?
-The fight scenes, when they DO come, are badly edited and choreographed. Just look up Harrison on the treadmill from Dexter Season 8. Scott Buck is no stranger to bad stunt work.
-Uninteresting characters and uneven pacing. Yup. Same with Dexter in its later years. There was almost nothing interesting going on with the side characters in Dexter. And if some interesting shit DID happen, it was often either not followed up upon or stopped cold. However, here it seems worse, as the main character and plot seem to be hit with the snore labels too.

There’s other stuff I’m forgetting, but this is off the top of my head. Like I said before, we’ll decide for ourselves if these criticisms are valid. But if the first six eps are as bad as people are saying, things will not get better for the remaining ones.

Iron Fist & Luke Cage
Colleen Wing & Misty Knight

Man, fuck all the SJW nonsense over Iron Fist. Give me Heroes For Hire and Daughters of The Dragon.

You know… I expected Iron Fist to have fights the same caliber as Into the Badlands.

Should have casted Christian Howard :coffee:

Did you not watch the preview the one with the cage fight, it was terrible.

Hope it raises in the second half, I hope this won’t become a chore to watch just like Jessica Jones or Daredevil Season 2 (episodes 6 onwards).

Directorially we might be in the same place but i’d have a lot more faith in the combat and we wouldn’t be hearing rumours about how lazy the lead is.
You may as well say what you got to say.

lol yeh, Capcom dealt them a bad hand with that whole project imo.

Soooo I ran into to some stunt friends who work on iron fist and I dunno how to feel now