I felt the same way as well. I think what they were going for was that this was early Fisk and they were trying to add some depth to how he is becoming Kingpin. But in reality it did come of weird and inconsistent at times. Mainly seeing how dude was already wrecking stuff and was running things, then like you said looking like a goofy fat kid.
In some ways I felt he channeled some of his quirks from the movie chained.
Now i want ascot, pimp cane, and purple pants kingpin
He was traumatised by his father in the Spiderman cartoons too, he has flashbacks when he is fighting DD from what I remember. My gripe with Fisk was his awkward ass when he was picking up supermans mom. Like damn, thought he was gonna get Wesley to do the dirty on that bitch for him as well.
I think the more badass approach would be for people to GIVE Fisk power, rather than he take it. He goes to prison and for some reason maybe gives advise to a gang for something. Then they turn to him to ask for advise, then he’s running that group, then acquires more groups, etc.
Did the Shows version of kingpin really strike you kind a guy that is just gonna chill lax waiting for people to come to him?
I wonder if CW execs watch Daredevil and are like “this has no teen angst, this will never do well.”
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makes sense. interesting shield doesnt get the same deal.
Shame he won’t be in Civil War… Guessing they will throw him into Infinity War, then.
Aside from Deathlok there isn’t anyone they can use in the movies from that show. I can see DD showing up in a Spider-Man movie and have a team-up with him.
Look at how they portrayed Fisk in the first 2 episodes - an invisible villain. He doesn’t directly interact with the different factions (Gao, Leland, etc.). Thugs that Murdock meets either don’t know his name or too scared to say it. We don’t know how he obtain his wealth, power, or huge network of people in his pockets. But his strength lies in his intellect and tactician, not in his brute strength. So I can see him getting his power back with his brains, not his brawns.
Edit: Will it happen like this? I don’t know. But to me, it’s the approach that has a bigger impact. And I didn’t mean he’s going to wait for awhile. He can make comments and his cell mate go “oh, he’s right.” Then he builds his respect/power from day 1.
You have to consider that he had Wesley with him though. Without his right hand man, he might be forced to change things up a bit, Wesley after all, seemed to help temper his more impulsive/destructive traits (whereas Vanessa seems to encourage them).
ummm well sky is clearly gonna end up in the inhumans movie. coulsen is avengers/cap attatched…i can see may ending up in a cap movie somehow. the scientists also could end up in cap.
Put him in Spiderman. Put him in Spiderman. Put him in Spiderman.
spidey talkin to a gargoyle callin him bruce…daredevil zippin by sayin hes crazy for talkin to himself.
Netflix knows easy money when they see it.
Will we finally get a Bruce appearance in a movie? We’re long overdue.
for some reason i thought we already had a bruce moment during the tobey years…no?
Bruce Campbell moments sure, not Bruce the Gargoyle. At least I don’t think.
Finally finished the season. I loved it for the most part, the first half of the show was super strong.
First off, the fight choreography was the best I’ve seen in a while for the genre. Other than Cap 2 and Blade, nothing else comes close. Hell, it felt weird watching Marvel: AoS right after because the fight scenes seemed cornier and tame in comparison. You really get the feeling that Matt’s utilizing different styles, and his speed and agility is awesome to watch.
The way they depicted Murdock’s radar sense was flawless. The sound effects highlighting what he’s focusing on really gives you the sense of how his ability operates. The addition of meditation as a pseudo-healing factor was a nice touch to explain how he could take such monstrous beatings and still keep at it the next episode. The shonen~esque “Murdocks always get back up” philosophy drove his determination as well.
The interaction with the characters and the world building was good; the show really had dark, grimy undertones with corruption and greed abound. The slow introduction of the Wilson Fisk and the ominous feel of his arrival was well done. I saw that they wanted to do a Jekyll & Hyde duality with him and it worked well for the most part, but other times it felt awkward. Realistically speaking, most leaders do have tragic flaws and insecurities that drive them, so I still appreciated the attempt at depth. Stick was awesome, nuff said. The crimelords were all unique and brought different things to the table that prevented them from being hackneyed and redundant (The episode with Murdock and the injured Russian mobster was a major highlight of the season). Sadly, there was one major gripe I had with the series…
The rampant, unnatural idealism of Murdock’s circle became a real annoyance in the latter half of the series; and the writing for the season finale felt like a forced way to conclude the season in a neat bow, in order to allow their “justice without killing” philosophy to be hastily fulfilled. In a city where every facet of the justice system was on the take, Foggy and Karen’s idealistic pursuits felt woefully naive, unrealistic, and downright suicidal at times. If the series didn’t start off with an almost Punisher-styled world filled with depravity and evil, I could’ve accepted the idealism a bit; but with the world building that was made in the first 4 episodes, it seemed counterproductive and hard to believe. Honestly, much of the finale felt rushed and rather empty. As a result, Daredevil’s final confrontation with Fisk had real no sense of tension it did in the previous eps, esp. since Fisk had no genuine fighting prowess or stamina like his comic counterpart and Murdock was donning full armor, but it was still satisfying to see Fisk’s life unraveling just for closure’s sake.
All in all, it was still a good series. It felt better not binge-watching it and pacing myself, like I would usually do with most Netflix shows.
This show was easily a 10/10 for me. Thinking about doing a rewatch when I go over my friend’s house to get him in it.