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the difference is that macros in this game specifically enable many people to shit that would otherwise few would be able to do. i’m pretty sure that there is nobody that can do the wm glove/mk infinites without macros, for example (3:30 in that vid).
not to twist your words around but it sounds a little more about elitism, but if macros does truly open up broken tech because it wasn’t coded for controllers with more than 6 buttons than i do understand the argument
in the case of those two infinites specifically (and others like them), they literally can’t be done consistently without 3p
Same to you. Not going to change my control preferences because you find a binding unfair.
proof?
Same proof as the Konami code, level selects, sound tests, and various other things that would seem think as useless or a cheat are there to help the programmer to help test his game.
oh nvm i thought you were saying its not going to be in origins
i was just talking in general.
Way to miss the point. That’s NOT the argument AT ALL. More like:
“i can do the combos AT THE ARCADE. but I don’t have a stick at home, just a pad and a keyboard. don’t force me [and other pad/kb players] to get a stick just to play this.”
But yeah, I’m not getting a stick anyway since I don’t have a PS3 or 360 (LOL).
I just want to get rid of the misconception that the infinites are IMPOSSIBLE without macros.
Because that’s not true at all.
I get the argument that macros remove the “human error” factor in matches (and yes, they should therefore be banned in SERIOUS matches like money matches or tourneys), but I will NOT accept the argument that infinites are impossible without macros. It’s not even remotely hard.
Read my post
As I said, it’s not even remotely hard at all, and I haven’t played this game on stick for over 10 years, and I also just learned to glove like a few weeks ago.
e.g. for the glove inf, the beat you have to alternate LP and 3p is just 320 BPM, that doesn’t even require that much dexterity at all. I’ve encountered MUCH worse in IIDX, and people can still manage to perfect everything every time, even with simultaneous button presses required.
I can’t fucking wait to play Shuma in a game where he is not shitty.
Seriously MVC3 Shuma is a fucking joke.
Its not control “choice”. Its setting the buttons up in a way that was never intended for this game. There was never an option on the arcade to make dash a one button move. Why is this so hard to understand?
I was a big fan of Whilce when I was a kid, but god damn, the artwork he did for this collection is horrible.
How was it never intended to be in the game? Because you and a few others don’t like it? By your logic there shouldn’t be a training mode, pair play, or the choice to use a controller of your own preference because they weren’t in the arcades and weren’t intended to be in the game. We ain’t in a damn arcade so stop bringing that weak excuse up. If you want to play it without macros then go to your local arcade and play it there. It’s in the game so just deal with it.
Human Error? Then what about macros nowadays don’t they do the same thing take away that human error? I still don’t understand why this game having macros is such a problem.
sorry, not believing that anyone can consistently glove inf (or especially jMK inf or wolv s.MP inf) manually without match+hand video evidence because dashes in this game require all 3 buttons on the exact same frame, unlike marvel 3 where you can press them a frame apart. the probability of hitting one button a frame off is just too high manually whilst macro’ed there’s no probability of that happening. even the highest execution players in marvel 2 miss airdash cancels there and only 2 buttons need to be hit on the same frame. citing rhythm games as an example isn’t even good because they will let you be even several frames off with simultaneous inputs depending on the song and still credit you for it
I thought this port still didn’t have Turbo II which is extremely important tournament wise.
Why are people making such a big deal about something that you could probably just turn off or avoid with friends? You guys are making these macros sound like gems and it sounds like it will distract us from the real problem at hand.
Macros is not and never was in the game! This is crazy.
There was never a dash button. How is that so hard to understand. Dash is inputted either by hitting FF or BB or pressing 3 punch buttons. Dash was never a one button move.
Honestly, I really don’t get why this is so hard to understand.
Mentions macros as something that can be turned off.
Compares them to gems, as if gems can’t also be turned off.
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Iron Galaxy should just get rid of them if they bother people so much. I just don’t get all the back and forth when the speed of the game has not been dealt with 2 months from release.
This is pretty weak, at the end of the day unless you are bound to tourney rules then anything goes. Online has always been unforgiving, IN ANY GAME. If you think someone is going to change their game style around to suit yours so you can have an easy win then you need to go back to playing with your college buddies. Seriously this goes for just about every argument. Mouse and Key vs Gamepad in FPS… etc…
So are you saying Pad players in Marvel 3 shouldn’t have short cuts like having two buttons for L attack and maybe a button with L+M or something? I can’t Imagine using my Zero in Ultimate Marvel on PAD without having a second L button as a trigger…
I was a bit unsure what you guys meant about Macros but if you guys are just talking about one button that = 3P or 3K then lmao. It isnt as if you can actually see how your opponent is playing anyway, you can only deal with what is coming right at you on screen, or rage quit if you do that short of shit.
Shoutouts to Tasktool! I vs you this past weekend on GGPO my first time going on.