The only thing I have to add is that I’m sure they create a whole new feel to mvc3 because they know they can’t dwell in the past with a 10yr old game. Button wise I think was created intentionally that way because I believe most future games will not have that mvc2 button layout anymore and we all know only a few of us hardcore mvc2 players learned to play mvc2 quite well. The majority of the mvc2 online community are nOObs and ragequitters. If they had made mvc3 just like mvc2 is now, the average gamer will probably not stick around to play this game much.
On a side note, I believe this game will be great. I already have some hardcore mvc2 players that are on my friends list playing this game early. Sok13, Dago_Premium, Namco827, chetos13, and few others.
Change is hard to deal with, believe me I play guilty gear ac. A lot of us thought and felt the same way I’m seeing a lot of players feel about mvc3. I can admit that blazblue was cool at first but I realized I was playing it for the wrong reason, that reason being I missed the ggac scene and was hoping it would bring that back. Long story short, it didn’t and I stopped playing. I think the same thing will happen with this. Some people will play it for a while and realize it’s not for them and go back to mvc2. I’ll probably be one of them, I don’t like my fighting games easy. The technicality (TO ME, this is my opinion) of a fighting game is what makes it awesome. The fact that everyone can’t just pick it up and do 100% combos is important to me. FRC’s made guilty gear great to me. Having to deal with yuu-mei and khaos and nothingblue’s lightning fast tri jumps makes mvc2 great to me. I suck at mvc2 but I love it for the endless possibilities it has and that any scrub can pick cable and jump back and blast on fools, but not everyone can ROM you out with mags or air to ground back to air with ironman. All this said, I will be getting mvc3. I’m not as hyped, it’ll probably be returned, but I will still be getting it. If I don’t like it it’ll sit on the shelf or it’ll get traded in towards another game.
On another note, ggs khaos and yuu-mei recently even though I didn’t win any matches it’s always fun to play high level players. I’ll be on later if anyone wants to play low tier or god tier, doesn’t matter.
yeah marvel4kidz is pretty disappointing. doesn’t look to be much depth. if you’re more prone to mashing than other players or have mediocre-to-average (at best) execution this game is for you. there doesn’t seem to be much (they took out a lot of) rewards for the players who have actual precision or better timing : /
even if somehow there ends up being something in the game to reward more technical players like myself (though with everything they removed, I doubt it) it really wouldn’t mean much when you have brain dead easy combos that do crazy damage being performed even by players who’ve played marvel2 for so many years and were consistently terrible at it (in combos and actual gameplay)
the combos/hits seem to be stupidly lenient too. and when I hear “creative” used with some of these day 1 combos it’s pretty laughable to me (considering some of the combos that have come out of mvc2 even after ten years [including my own combos])
this is of course not to say everyone playing/enjoying themselves is totally a masher/has terrible timing.
it looks reaaaaaal pretty though. but I’ll stick to big boy marvel and arcana heart I think.
I will probably try it out some more though. it will probably be smash bros brawl status (they fucked up after melee). just something for stupid casual “fun”. I don’t think I’d want to pay for it though.
People will hate this game, but because it is a capcom game and we are living in North America, we will be playing it competitively regardless of how bad or how much we hate it.
People will hate this game, and enough people from the competitive scene will stay away from it, and it will do to what Melee did to Brawl, as in no one will play it, and people will still play Melee. Only, this will just allow Capcom’s biggest competitive game to be SSF4AE when it hits consoles.
this game is surprisingly…fun! i wasnt a tvc player so i cant say which it feels more like, ill just say it feels like a floatier mvc2 to me with exaggerated wall and ground bounce. wolverine has some nice shit, i wish he could drill claw>dive kick>launch in mvc2 that shitd be sick. sentinel IS braindead, you can learn him in a minute like Jwong said. the flashy combos some people are displaying will be cool for styling purposes but other than that you really dont need them. sentinel not having a jumping lk is a big nerf, wtf was capcom thinking i wouldve gotten rid of the punch. also, his air MK whiffs like 80% of the time for me.
im using the more mvc2 ish layout
L H A1
M E A2
and its working pretty well for me, occasionally i fuck up mentally and try to do an MVC2 type magic series. and this brings up another complaint.
WTF was capcom thinking with this combo system? half of the magic series skip light attack in the air, and heavy attacks on the ground. did they just forget the rules of the established system? i know some people will say “well this is a new engine deal with it” but seriously, i feel like this is a 3 button game when air combos are launch M M H E.
another point on the magic series: if you have extra fast hands, check them at the door. you can play this game with one finger when it comes to air combos. tak…tak…tak…tak…finger speed doesnt matter.
some good points, this game is BEAUTIFUL. Captain america’s shield looked like ass in videos and i didnt play him at nycc, and nycc was in october so i had forgotten how good this game looks…and cap shield looks fantastic. all the character models look great.
and thats about it. fun as fuck, but it wont replace mvc2 as my favorite game 6/10, and thats generous
BGs to mokujon. scrapped his strider/doom for free. plays BH/Sent/Cable. holds upback ALL DAY. beats me 2 times. then I OCV his shitty team with sent and blames it on lag. fuck outta here
Welcome to the wonderful world of what’s left of MVC2. Yeah Mvc2 will be 4-life for me but lets face it, Forum is dead and all that remains is Rage-quitters & nOObs.
Hey yo, like I said a few posts ago…THIS SHIT WILL SUCK DICK!!!
EZ ass combos!
Everybody doing NOTHING and winning!!
Eye candy for sure but that’s about IT!!
Crapcom pulling the wool over everybody’s eyes and basically just throwin any type shit out there to shut the public up!!
End result this shit is BFF=…Bum Fuckin Friendly!!
To those who like it, much respect and more power to ya. To those who don’t don’t waste your time explaining it, cause like I said it’s pointless! You alllllllways are gonna have bandwagoners and flunkies who wanna protect their precious games no matter what game it is! Please keep in mind that I have come up with all this hate and negative WITHOUT EVEN PLAYIN THE GAME!!! Not even once! I know people will play it and please no offense to the 1’s who do, but fareal tho this shit is trash! If I wanted “change” I would’ve asked Barak Obama to make this shit! Wait…that’s it…he must be a secret producer for this bitch! Hmmmmm It’s all makin sense to me now, I gotta check the credits to see if I will see his name in them! Anyways basically I’ma get it and try it but believe me when I tell ya that I’m gonna have the look on my face as if somebody farted in the room I’m in and my nose and the side of my mouth is tooted upwards while I’m playin this game which looks to be straight BAFOONERY!! I guess I’m goin to FR14 just to hang wit the fellas, hit the clubs (Finally) and get random casuals and MM’s in “Big Boy Marvel” which is MVC2! Fuck it!
I love me some mahvel 2 crack… but let me confirm for you beyond a shadow of a doubt (because I’m an old fucker) that everyone said almost all the same stuff when going from mvc1 to mvc2. Until they got a hold of the game and really dug in. In the early days everyone was doing launch to magic series n shit… then people found the advanced combos and higher lvl strats. Jump back icemen got separated from the pack of competitive characters… (along with most of the rest of the cast.) Some of those people still to this day hold onto the idea that mvc1 was a better game by far and you can find them playing on ggpo all the time… …food for thought.
Justin also wasn’t a fan of sf4 when he first played it as I recall… along with a lot of others who’ve since changed their tune.
I dunno how marvel 3 will go… but at least in this age of patches and DLC it can improve over time at least. SF4 vanilla was basically a sack of shit compared to the latest iterations of the game… even though it was pretty good overall. Things advance… change… yada… we gotta just keep the community solid and things will fall into place. I’m looking forward to a clean slate… getting back into training mode with some passion.
-Awesome graphics
-Yeah theres deep there… if you dont believe me try doing an aerial combo whit wolvie (its not that intuitive)
-There are easy chars (wesker) and complex ones (phoenix)
-The launch button has more functions than just being a launch button (it’s actually a strong punch and an hard knockdown in the air, and a croosup attack)
-Characters have diferent tools to make their own combos examples:
Spidey- WebSwing
Captain-Shieldthrow
On both cases you dont need to LAUNCH your enemy to start a good combo
-Its not as intuitive as it looks
-And it doesnt feel like Tatsunoko vs capcom… at all. (aside for ryu… )
I hope you know the fundamental when it comes to gaming. You can’t be like “OMFG…The game is so awesome.” Also, there is no deep to the game. The game is PLAIN simple ass hell.
Before you decide to have an argument with others. I suggest you get your facts and resource before using them. How dare you resemble MvC3 to BB.
Tatsunoko vs Capcom = Marvel vs Capcom 3. They are the SAME engine. SAME buttons layout. You know what’s the difference? Nothing…However, all they did was add a launcher/exchange button. In Tatsunoko vs Capcom, you had to do the motion to even do a launch. In Marvel vs Capcom 3, you can simply press L L L X and you’re set. Heck, even in Marvel vs Capcom 2 or any previous game. You don’t just press LP LP into High Punch to launch your opponent. You had to either press down+HP or down+HK depending on the character’s move. Also, this game is MAD easy to learn and get the hang of it.
Do you know what makes SSFIV and Marvel vs Capcom 2 different? I want you to point them out and see if you know the fundamental of the games. I could consider them resemble since it’s a CAPCOM’s product and it’s a fighting game.
Thanks Gcon for your inputs and save me the $65 buck! LOL. When I heard that they changed the buttons layout to L,M,H, and whatever the other garbage buttons are, it turned me off right away. I don’t mind adapting to new games, but not with a game that carries the famous title but has a different mechanism. A fault advertisment if you ask me. I was planning to buy it to give it a try, but after hearing many people from here and other sites, I’ll pass on it. I’ll stick to my MVC2 and gladly to play it until the day I turn 99 years old.
BTW, accept my challenge already dammit so I can icembeam you to death.
At VDO - LMFAO! Let’s get some low tiers going sometime and I have a perfect team for you. Sim, Jug, and Iceman
You won’t be the only one, same here. I guess this game split the group and we’ll be playing new names. I’ll still be loyal to mvc2 of course and playing from time to time. I’m just going where the competition is going, the tournaments and the money matches are going that’s my flow right now.
(it’s actually a strong punch and an hard knockdown in the air, and a croosup attack)
i guess im goign to be the only 1 beasting mvc3 out =P