Marvel Tiers for New Players

I’ve never gotten guard broken nor has gabriel. yes, he takes damage like a bitch, but he does damage like hell too. any 1 good hit should be death anyway no matter who it is and who they are doing it to. gabe and I have had matches against the players we play with who are just as good as us where we’ve got that hit and destroyed the whole (top tier) team with anak. it’s very possible with anak to do that, and quickly to boot.

with online now in the mix, you should see a lot of low tier wreaking havoc. I was beating peeps yesterday with anakaris and sonson against low and high tiers. I had like a 30+ win streak (maybe 1 loss, prob woulda been 0 offline) against someone who was using only top tier teams (tried every team in the book too) and plenty were anak OCVs. it can be done. just use your tools correctly.

you should be afraid of the ones who are strictly low tier masters (I’m only low tiering every so often…but that should change because of online marvel hopefully :B)

I admit, I used to try to play anakaris the wrong way imo (try to constantly rush)…but if you exploit their best things you can make stuff happen most of the time.

like shoult said, if someone takes the time to learn dhalsim…that shit will be crazy. he has all the shit he needs, we’re just waiting. I’ve been meaning to learn dhalsim one of these days…especially since he’s good with IM. I actually was going through those magnetro vids at one time. just spent too much time playing what I know/working on more shit with teams I already play.

Just beat em down beats, no more talk.

If low tiers are soooo horrible then i guess these gdlk top tier players better showcase how well they know the matchup then right?

Dhalsim and Anakaris are the most controversial by far. First off Anakaris takes near Roll amounts of damage, has a super slow jump, has strange hitboxes that are hard to correctly distance, is super punishable if he whiffs, has very conditional supers that are easy to punish, builds meter slowly. In theory if you never miss, never whiff a command throw, always hit the infinite, and can manage his awkward normals and hacks to mobility he’s good. Dhalsim has great reach, run away, and in theory rushdown. On the other hand he does minimal damage, takes lots of damage by comparison, has terrible assists and even worse supers, it’s easy to mess up his rush down and either lose the chain because you were 1/2 inch too far/close or you accidently hit down + attack and are about to get raped for doing a drill attack.

inexperience isnt a decent excuse, when somone actually MASTERS the character like you see with everyone else, then we’ll talk again.

lol, your anakaris knowledge is lacking, yiearkungfu

slow normal jump…sj most of the time. the nj has uses with assists like tron after FS. you keep them in stun with that shit.

he doesn’t have strange hitboxes…? what are you talking about? plz explain

whiffing usually isn’t an issue. cancel to cobra snap helps too

only 2 conditional supers that can be comboed into. super snake rush is a great super, not really conditional, and not really punishable if done right…infact it’s pretty hard to punish correctly unless you’re like cable/storm. even then, in the situation where u usually do it and you can be punished…you’re usually killing an assist and can DHC storm/IM/sonson/etc.

whiffing command throws isn’t that big of an issue. if you’re trying to trick cable into a command throw I’m sorry but you’re pretty stupid. command throw of AAA hits are where it’s mostly used.

you’re making non-issues issues (not anymore issues than other chars)

I’ve won plenty of games without the infinite too. and my anakaris is nothing compared to Gabe’s. YJDK

Well I think part of what makes Anakaris dangerous in the right hands is the surprise factor, if people actually used him to his potential to the point where people analyzed the match up he’d come in lacking. There is a difference between mastering a character and playing perfect in that playing perfect is impossible. When Anakaris misses he takes super redic amounts of damage, that’s a fact that will never change no matter how good you get with him.

You
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I doubt someone will spend that much time on the other characters because they’ll get more out of spending that much time on Storm and Sentinel.

While we’re talking about Anak:

My old team was Anak/Ironman/Doom and I sometimes replaced Doom with Sim. Unblockables, unescapables, infinites, and resets ALL DAY. Once you get hit, just put the controller down and go home.

lol

wtf is iron man doing next to the big 4, and why are war machine and sim in the top tier

i don’t know why people keep posting that vid of anak…it sucks.

Newbies have never seen curse before, the thread is marvel tiers for new players.

A zoning video might confuse people :rofl:

Also, I agree with ytwojay about War Machine.

Official would mean someone would have the final say.
No one is in that position

Top 3 is always gonna be magneto, storm and sentinel
IM is creeping up due to better execution with IM - eg Unfly - air to ground

Past that its a bunch of generalisations - everyone (generally) has the same top 10 - just that alot of people would differ on who is 5th, 6th, 7th etc…

Mid tier is always gonna be a mish mash of Sim, WM, Rogue, Anakaris, megaman, Ruby, psylocke, Omega Red, etc…

lol - minimal damage
Sim’s strike super does like 30% plus. Numerous set ups - inescapable.
Pokes and RP assist - 60 - 70% from a far poke.
He can carry people across the screen easily with drones - then corner combo into Yoga strike.
Unfly mode - crazy damage

His blast assist isn’t that bad - give IM one hit kill anywhere - any height.
Good fast fly stuff with sent.

You have a point re doing unintended drills and difficult rushdown but he can also AD backwards and call assists.

**** Just wondering - have you actually seen the Dhalsim DVD and put any training mode time into him? *****

This^

No way in fucking hell is Dhalsim mid tier. Dude is top tier (not god tier).

rush down --> “No amount of “work” will let you win while playing ANYTHING other than the top against the top.”

This game has been out for like a decade… and its been done… in fact its been done a LOT… in fact… 1/2 the reason the some of the non god tiers are as high as they are on the list… is simply b/c they have a good matchup against one or more god tiers…

You can win with anyone if you can outsmart your opponent… out execute them… it takes a good player to beat god tiers… but we’ve seen it. Done it. Maybe taking mid/low tiers in against the top 5 makes it HARD to win… but not futile… at all. In fact… I think its more fun.

That being said… if forced to put my money where my mouth is… and play for cash… I’d prolly have sent or storm on my team somewhere… alone with maybe IM or Doom… lol So I certainly get your point.

LOL if you go to the XBL Marvel Leaderboard and check the all-time, I think I’m sitting somewhere around #3.

And if you play me, you will NEVER see Mags/Sent/Storm on my team…MAYBE the occasional Cable…So this ‘no amount of “work”’ talk is definitely bogus.

Btw, Beats’s Anakaris? I’ve experienced it first hand and might I say it’s pretty scary. My Juggernaut couldn’t even move! I think I caught him with throw or something, but Anakaris rushdown ain’t no joke. If I have a vid of it I’ll post it.

Didn’t Viscant used to use Anakaris and Dhalsim? Are there any videos of him playing them?

That was us you were playing against last night. I was playing the spidey ron, mixup ran the mummy\morri ron, jill\xxx ron, and ruby\xxx ron. You were also playing against another local who ran psy\charlie ron.

:lovin:

actually, Vidness did play my anakaris. perhaps mixup’s too.

what ain’t no joke is the bbhood/juggs/etc. THC of DOOM.

after the first 2 times I got hit and it destroyed (obliterated, annihilated, etc.) anakaris and most of sonson…I just had to really keep the eff away from that. uGHUGHUGH

we sent him a message asking to play low tier but I don’t think we told him who we were.

I know he played mixups last night because we were sitting in rotation watching the matches. We probably got like 15 games in with vidness last night total.

ggs vidness. Spiral ron = low tier???