Marvel Tiers for New Players

Classic Fighting Games Marvel VS Capcom 2
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IM kills you in 1 hit anywhere on the screen. He and WM are probably the only characters that can do that. GOD LIKE priority on all his normals as well. If you can CH, this character is OUT OF CONTROL.

and if you don’t think he’s top tier, go play an IM master.

Its not only chuns infinite that make her good. j.d.rh is randomly unblockable due to marvels frame cycle. J.d.rh when approaching someone from above is GOD LIKE. Her resets after her infinite are broke, decent priority on her normals and her srk+k+helper is a good AA option. Her mobility is above average with a max of 6 jumps and an AD still. She’s the only character in the game that can do SJ, DJ cancel, low AD angle or TJ from there.

Storm can run, but she eventually has to hit the ground and if chun lands 1 hit with a good helper, storm is done. Chun is also one of the few low tiers that will chase storm off screen. If chun lands a FS combo from that height, you’re not going to block her 1 frame mixup consistently. No one is.

call tron, j.d.rh, adf has got to be the nastiest reset series ever. Randomly unblockable. If you do manage to block it, you can get tron to hit front\back after the ADF. So you gotta block a random unblockable, then a variable on left\right block with tron and EVEN IF YOU BLOCK THIS ONE, you still gotta deal with another 1 frame instant overhead.

EDIT: regardless of WM says about that spidey infinite, I’m the one who posted up the theory and my string was 98% right. Go look @ the spidey thread where he asks me a question and I tell him about the infinite I even mentioned it to mixah because he thought I was talking about a sentinel only version. I even posted up that I managed to get 2.5 reps on tron over a year ago. I find it odd that my infinite rep and his infinite rep is are practically the same and I was doing it a year before he was and I even told him about it and readjusted his string.

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=5333840&postcount=64
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=6774932&postcount=118

Its w\e though.

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Yeah I’ve seen the j360 matches and buckethead, ilian, combofiend, etc.

And I’ve been beaten by iron man players.
But these guys have to work hard for their wins.

And I disagree that 1 hit any where will kill a full char. or a team. You gotta have that DHC

My main argument is that peeps that have iron guy on their team take a big hit in the ability of the other characters. Team combofiend is one of the weakest mag teams imo.

With cyc, he’s a great assist, and on point he’s also very good.

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You’re obviously not going to change your mind based on an internet forum, so i’ll just fuck you up online in a few hours if you’re on. The Sazae will be the tag.

edit: to the above poster about ironman, team combofiend is 2nd or 3rd best mag team overall.

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lol have fun losing

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As a noob, I see Iceman hurting me most with his no chip damage shield.

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you take chip just not beam chip

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Sorta sucks, using Ironman and Cyclops beams.

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combo your beams then

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Ur a beast so I’ll agree to some of the things you say, but I didn’t think you’d rep combfiend over mst or mss.

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Alright, haven’t seen anyone get it right yet so here’s the real tiers (that matter) and a short write-up as to why.

God Tier-
Sent - Fly/Unfly, best defense in game, zoning/range, high/low mixup, high damage, BeamxxRocketPunchxxDronesxxRepeat, unblockable, good assists.
Storm - Rushdown or run away, builds sick meter, Hail Storm DHC, good cross-up from combos, easy Sent only infinite, most versatile character in game.
Magneto - Best rushdown, infinites, builds meter, easy snapback combos, best cross-ups and resets.
Cable - Keep away, builds meter, AHVB (obviously), alpha switch into AHVB, destroys assists like no other, traps, easiest guard break into AHVB.

Top Tier-
Iron Man/War Machine - Infinite, zoning attacks, damaging combos, DHC into Photon Canon (IM), guard break to infinite.
Doctor Doom - Top Tier AA assist, zoning, builds meter, traps.
Spiral - Traps, best teleport in game, zoning, builds insane meter, mashable throw.
Strider - Strider/Doom trap
Cyclops - Builds meter, top tier assist, very versatile for anchor character.
Blackheart - Traps, Zoning, Builds meter, infinite (meh), AA assist, qbb.HPxxqcf.KK, surprisingly good d.lk.

Top Tier Assist-
CapCom - AA assist, mashable throw.
Psylocke - AA assist, quick and deadly anchor character.
Tron Bonne - Projectile assist = broken amounts of damage

Notable Middle Tier-
Dhalsim - Run Away, in theory good rushdown (good luck with that)
Cammy - Good AA assist, deadly on point
Iceman - Icebeam, Icebeam, Icebeam
Megaman - Hard to hit, quick recovery on jumping HP, ghetto traps.
Rogue - Quick, airdash, dive kick, command throw, throw assist.
Anakaris - In theory he’s really good for various reasons, good luck with that unless you are a cyborg.

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But of course. Thousands of online players will awaken to the joys of picking teams that suffer disadvantages against teams that actually have the ability to control a match. Truly, this new fad of losing shall be a revolution that will sweep the internets.

:coffee:

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Is there some actual official tier list somewhere or are tier lists just found throughout forum posts and often subject to the poster’s opinion?

Not in any way challenging your tier list or meaning to say your tier list is based on your own opinion and correct or incorrect because of it. I’m just wanting to know if there is an official one somewhere.

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The top 4 never change. This has been standard fare since year 1 of the game release, and there is no debate on that. Ranking the big four goes something like

  1. Sentinel/Storm (debatable who is top between the two)
  2. Magneto
  3. Cable

Though I’ve heard arguments on switching 3 and 4.

You can search the forums to see how they rank upper tier, with IM, Strider, Doom, Blackheart and a few others there, a vast mid tier list, and low tier not unlike what was posted in this thread already.

I don’t see a point in trying to see who is on top with the mid tier cast, mainly because of the dominance of the big 4 whenever I play in the arcades, although with this release I suppose that may change with new players not knowing much about the tiers and trying to be more creative (which is a breath of fresh air, IMO).

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I guess the most “official” would be the one in the SRK wiki. The opening post put IM in God tier, which is why I even posted. 99% of people who play MVC2 with any amount of seriousness would say IM is not God tier and Dhalsim is probably not top tier. Since this is supposed to be a guide for new players I thought I’d clear that up. The only place my tier list really differs from the one most players would agree on is BH in top tier instead of middle tier which 50/50 would say one or the other depending on how much you factor in that he is terrible without an assist. The other usual matters of opinion are whether Megaman/Cammy belong in upper or middle and Anakaris/Dhalsim/Rogue are all over the place depending on who you ask because they are all better in theory then in practice.

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Yeah I agree Kung Fu’s post is the most accurate about the tiers.

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Agreed.

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There are low tier teams that can control space. There’s low tier teams that can kill your assist after one lazy call. There’s low tier teams with 1-hit kill. There’s low tier teams with infinite block stun loops.

Plus, its FUN. I’m not saying top tier isn’t, fun, I’m just saying that with practice my low tier teams are going to compete with and surpass top tier teams in certain aspects of the game. There’s plenty of characters in the game that can do things that Mag/Storm/Sent/Cable can’t do. How is that not exciting? Dhalsim can out-poke pretty much everybody outside of Sentinel, can create unblockables for other characters, and is better at running than Storm. Metal Gief Lariat assist beats everything. Silver Samurai can crouch-cancel his HP on block to create extended block strings.
Nice smilie btw.

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Akuma’s Demon Tier !!! cant have a team without him (well I can but…)

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Dhalsim WILL BE GOOD. All its going to take is 1 veteran and the time to learn his stuff thats it. I can see dhalsim getting perfects because his game is that good.

Anakaris is already god like and several players are already good with him. Beats, gabe and mixup mike are the only ones I know of @ the moment. Mixups mummy dropped someone in 8 seconds the other day and there’s footage of gabe handing it to top tiers teams with his mummy. Its not a theory, its already here.

rush down, you gonna be on today? we got tied up with other players because we forgot you’re xbl handle. I’ll make sure to write it down if we get up to play @ my friends house again.

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I’ve seen good Dhalsim’s and Anakaris’. I feel that Dhalsim is good if used properly, but 1) not many people use him properly and 2) he takes more work than the average mid/upper tier character. And Anakaris’ slow jump means he gets guard broken a lot, and if I remember correctly he has less than average vitality so a few good hits and out he goes.