Congrats, you found a video where the best player in the world starts the round really well against one of the top 4 using a mid tier character. Clearly, this isn’t rare judging by the audiences response. :yawn:
Just curious… what team do you play? Are you just trying to justify something?
Well just play low tier players only. Problem solved.
Someone should make a match making thread for low tier players only.
They should have just balanced this fucking game and we wouldn’t even be having this conversation.
Well I agree with you on the god tiers and top tiers except that I would also add strider and anakaris to top tiers,
As For Mid tiers I got to disagree with the list Capcom it’s good there and so is psylocke but Tron? I don’t see it there, I’m still wondering why Omega red is not even in the mid tier, For me he’s on the top tier or even god tier cause I could beat a sentinel/storm/iron man team or psylocke anytime, Heck I did it today at the arcade got my 12 wins with omega against sentinel pros and storms etc…
Maybe if you watched the video you would have seen that they were tied 4-4 when the double snap with Jill happened.
rush down, lets play tomorrow.
Well, Capcom couldn’t. Marvel only gave Capcom permission to port MvC2.
I just watched that whole thing and Jwong lost that money match 
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Cable, Guile, and Capcom is a top tier team alright.
And who’d have thought st.RH would whiff vs. Servbot :rolleyes:
Are you saying Servbot has a chance against Cable?! D:
Word, can’t wait to see your skill level with non-god tier characters.
I hope you know that Shoultzula knows how to play a lot of Low tiers…
When I get on @ my friends house later, I’ll send you a message saying who I am.
Cool. No matter the results, I still think the top 4 break the game.
In his first post, he said take out God and Top. Dhalsim and Cyclops would be included. Morrigan’s instant overhead may still be good, but she’s way low life and you can out prioritize her. Since the original poster said Commando and Psych might as well be God tier(which may not be true, but the assists are way good) the assists should probably be taken out too. If I was making standards for low tier competition, I’d say disallow those assists. The characters could still be used with their other assists. Tron’s projectile assist is damaging but usually something you can bait or get around. I’d probably say take it out anyway because someone would build a team around hitting with it and it would obviously be broken. Tron’s air mobility is either dashing or drilling and drilling leaves her way open to AAA’s and your own AA. I don’t see how Tron would be that good, but of course I’m open to it if you’re willing to explain.
Playing with that stuff banned, I don’t think there would be a new God tier. A top of course, but it wouldn’t be like God. I think everyone would have a chance.
I’m not saying low tier cannot win no matter what like the guy you were quoting with this, but I do think it would have been a significantly different story if DCP had been a player who did rush down with Storm and used Sentinel’s assist to pressure and if the guy had used Cable instead of Cyclops. Also, DCP did not punish that ken assist nearly enough. Ken should have been dead before he got a chance to play so many times. I don’t think Jwong was protecting the Ken assist very well.
It kind of depends. Anti Air assists are always helpful in any team, but sometimes a projectile or dash can be really nice if you’re trying to pressure. I pressure with Anti Air assists too though. Overall, in my opinion that is based on my experience, Anti Air is the best assist the majority of the time. Other assists can be very fun for setting up combos and such though.
The UK player missed a ton of really obvious tech throw chances. He also threw out assists at times that were asking for them to be punished. It can also be an oddly large disadvantage playing roll and servebot for their height, specifically against someone who knows the only ways to get damage out of them. That match seemed like an extreme psychological trick.
Not that I know of. People were doing low tier tourneys for a while but I don’t know what’s happening with that.
If anyone is interested in playing low tier, add me.
all tops break the game, I can agree with that. :crybaby:
heres an ugly bracket style tier list but this is just a personal opinion. Don’t mind the placing of the characters after tops, i’m just going to put them into groups. Mine are based on practicality of point play, assist play and team interactions.
top
mag
storm
sent
IM
cable
strider
doom
wm
BH
spiral
dhalsim
cyke
high mid remember that placing doesn’t matter, only the grouping
metal wolvie
psylock
anakaris
sonson
marrow
ruby heart
bison
morrigan
juggy??
cammy
chun
omega red
rogue
mega man -he’s either @ the bottom of top tier or @ the top of high mid
spidey
jill
charlie
gambit
**
mid**
capcom - great assist, not so good point play
tron - great assist, not so good point play
bone wolvie
guile
amingo
bbhood
ken - glitched tatsu, 2nd fastest AA in the game, infinite midscreen and he has roll crossup gimmicks
venom
colossus
iceman
**
low mid**
felicia
shuma gorath
thanos
ryu
akuma - don’t know if ryu\akuma belong in this group or in the mid.
silver samurai
sabretooth
gief
jin
hayato
captain america
sakura - dark sakura is notably better but takes 3 meters to activate her.
hulk
dan - BHKING BABY. Don’t know where this guy goes really.
low
servebot
roll
note: probably not 100% accurate since I can’t play every character well in the game.
Team chemistry is the key here. Even though some characters are ranked rather low, some GREAT team chemistry can really do huge things for a character.
Also remember that tier lists change over the years. Even though this game is 10 years old, I’m sure players are still finding new things out every day. Chun li used to be ranked pretty low but since her infinite was discovered, she’s going to be a really good character down the road. She’ll more than likely get perfects pretty easily.
When the game just came out, I said that every character in the game with a dash has a dash cancel infinite and every character in the game has the potential for call psy assist and then normal jump infinite or even solo setup into normal jump infinite such as Wolverine Master showed with Spiderman infinite.
An infinite alone doesn’t make the character, especially since Mahvel has the stun system with an automatic combo breaker and the damage scaling system.
The top 5 are top five for a reason and make Mahvel what it is. If the top 5 are banned then the game might seem fun at first but would get boring fast. The speed and diversity of Magneto, Storm, and Sentinel is what makes those characters fun for me. Cable can zone and with meter can easily punish opponent and assist. What makes IM so deadly isn’t just an infinite, it’s the fact that his infinite can solo kill before the stun combo breaker and his DHC is top in the game and his trijump and normals make it easier to set up the infinite. The rest of the cast need more than just an infinite to move them up. Chun looks great on paper but in practice Cyke can still air mash hk.
Mahvel is about countering. For example, sure Chun may have an infinite and stomp but Storm can just change from rush down to run away and Chun can’t do much because she is rush down and damn makers took away her air super :sad:
I think Chun has the potential to get up there. Triple jumps and an air dash with a stomp that stuffs almost anyone
why are people lumping in iron man with the top 4?
He’s NO where close to them and I still think clops is better over all and is the definite 5th.
This argument is already so old but even back in the day the tops were saying clops, capcom, and psy were the next best because
they’re used the most in actual game play and have won the most tourneys.