The time travel element of the film is done different to avoid all of the coundrums created by other time travel movies. So based on the rule presented
Time is truly relative to your home stream, per Prof Hulk
If you travel to the past, that past becomes your future and your former present becomes the past; which can’t now be changed because of your new future.
So regardless what direction you travel in time, it is locked and will forever be and will have 0 influence on your “Prime” timeline. lI’ll refer to this medium of time as “space-time” since that’s what each character is moving throughout.
As presented by Tony Stark, the only way to travel through space-time is through the quantum realm which is handled by that quantum tunnel device (applicable to the van version as well). Each Avenger (and Thanos ship) enters and exits the quantum realm exclusively through that quantum tunnel. Now given what Prof Hulk stated, you can change things in this alternate reality and have 0 impact on yours. So lets say that Cap returns all of the stones to their rightful place. This initiates the following alternate realities:
1970: Hank Pym has less Pym particles at his disposal
2012: Loki leaves with the space stone (obviously a Disney+ setup)
2014: Universe never experiences the true threat of Thanos and Co.
So now Marvel can start doing multi-verse shenanigans. Everything practically holds up till we get to the end of the movie, Cap goes through the machine and doesn’t come back. Judging by the car and the music, the final moment with Peggy. Another alternate reality is created:
194X: Steve Rogers stays travels back to get that last dance.
Then, at the very end after trying to bring Cap back to the 2023 (Prime) it fails. Nothing appears on the platform of the machine.We see him sitting on a bench in the distance in an elderly state. Given that earlier you have to travel through space time using the quantum tunnel, your present becomes the past, and changing the past cannot affect the future, Cap should not be there. Even if he waited that time, he was no longer in his “Prime” timeline. Unless he comes back via quantum band, he would have just been gone.
The Q&A by the Russo’s confirmed that Cap traveled back to 2023 (Prime) after spending the last 80 ish years living with Peggy. This rules out him being the mysterious husband theory from that scene in Winter Soldier. From a continuity perspective, it doesn’t work. Everything that went through space-time via the quantum realm came through one of those machines. By Cap not doing so just create a story continuity error. Highly doubt it was some sort of elaborate plot device for future movie. They wanted that scene and it’s far better for the audience to experience it the way they did vs seeing a frail Cap coming through the portal. Continuity errors get retconned all the time, so if it happens, great. However, I am sure at the time the Russo’s said F logic, this shot is prettier.
The issue is that the narrative expression of that shot was poorly done as it inferred that he just hung around and met back up which is impossible given how time travel works in the MCU.
Except Thanos 2014 Arcade Edition - who is part of 2014 - and DID get erased. Unless youre saying his ass got dusted and he returned to 2014 with his memories wiped out?
It more like the OG 2014 Thanos did his thing in 2014 and nothing new happen.
End Game 2014 Thanos discovered time travel and where to find all 6 stones in one convenient place. They dusted End Game 2014 Thanos, not OG 2014 Thanos.
What was spawned is a brand new time line where Thanos never finished his quest and gotten all 6 stones and infinity wars never happened. And Guardians of the Galaxy happen without a Gamora or a Nebula.
There is a version of the universe where Thanos disappeared in 2014 and never came back. That reality no longer has a version of that character. Thanos (Prime) died in 2019 by Thor’s hand. Thanos (2014) was killed in 2023 via snap.
You absolute fucking idiot. you flagged some dumbshit and I ended up reading a massive spoiler because I thought there would be some actual problem with the post.
What part of don’t flag dumbshit have you not understood?
Fuck a “you guys”. Why? Why did that shit need to be flagged? Explain to the whole class why somebody calling you a dumbfuck somehow broke the rules in GD.
It shows them time travel multiple times without the platform. Tony and Steve both travel to a time that wasn’t planned from a time where the platform doesn’t even exist yet. Cap could easily travel back to Prime Time without using the platform. Seems he can change his arrival location as well.
Tony and Steve traveled to a different point in the past. Everytime a person returned to the Prime timeline, it was always through that machine. That even applied to Thanos ship. If that isn’t the case it just introduces another continuity error.
because it was a completely different device with different mechanics involved
You guys are going to be Salty when Doom comes in and they let him have “HIS” Time Machine that Spanks the Ass out of any other Time machine out there.
That shouldn’t matter with the Endgame rules. The SoA cast should have created timelines not be stuck in a time loop. When it comes to the MCU the movies set the precedent.