I own every season of SitC on DVD and just don’t see the resemblance.
“what’s the over/under on when Michelle Obama makes it on the cover?”
"This is definitely a SEX IN THE CITY ripoff aimed at horny fanboys. Hell, the PARENTAL ADVISORY label on this book is pretty much proof that they are aiming this book at horny fanboys and not young girls.
This book is going to sell like crap and it deserves to sell like crap."
"This looks like a rip-off of Gotham City Sirens except less interesting. "
Not to mention the “not for me” comments.
No shit it’s not for you.
It’s aimed at the female audience.
The very same female audience everyone whines about not having any books for.
This is only the first wave of initial comments, which is more often than not the positive majority.
People bitching about the book online are giving it tons of free publicity. No way the first issue doesn’t sell out. Good for Roberto.
If anything the fact that people are just bitching in general means it will do well.
Any time the internet praises a book it seems to get canceled. (cough Captain Britain cough)
If only that would work for Bore.
That’s the same guy who wrote Marvel Knights 4. The one where the Fantastic Four had to get jobs. That comic sucked so badly. I’m not surprised he’d be writing some garbage like this.
PAD said it best in a podcast on Spider-Man Crawlspace. Internet opinion does not dictate what actually sells. Otherwise Y The Last Man would be the greatest selling comic of all time, Spider-Girl would never have been canceled / shoved into Spider-Man Family, Rulk would only sell five issues a month, Liefeld would be on welfare etc., etc., etc.
Same guy who brought back Shuma-Gorath (very few actual comic book appearances), Puma, Marvel’s Scarecrow (yep Marvel has a Scarecrow) and gave Spider-Man a future where he’s married with MJ and has two kids in Sensational prior to OMD/BND. He’s awesome IMHO. But whatever floats ya boat.
Also writing Stephen King:The Stand so yeah the guy is great
Peter David is a wise man.
It’s too bad he’s right.
For a few pages and had him get beaten off panel. :tdown:
That’s pretty much Shuma’s entire history lol! They talked about him for like 10 issues in Marvel Premiere and a slew of Conan comics before he actually showed up and got beat in like one or two issues a piece. He’s mentioned more than he appears. LOL at Bendis using “Shuma-Gorath” as password for Strange’s Starbucks hideout in New Avengers.
I mean hey at least he showed up. Guess if you want to see Strange and Shuma’s OG fights than back issues are still your best bet. Don’t think a new fight would be that different. Strange just chants a bunch of spells, kind of all he can do against an ancient GOD who was feasting on cavemen way back when oooh…
He did specifically say Y The Last Man and Spider-Girl, the rest is me adlibbing lol! This podcast was from back when he was doing FNSM.
Really? Just from seven pages of the comic and you’re already fully confident there’s no resemblance? They have the four character archetypes nailed down and they use the same narrative style - voiceover from the main character, that also happens to be a writer. It’s about four women in a city…I don’t think it’d be offbase to suggest there’s similiarities with the premise.
It might be a stretch to say that it’s a ripoff, but from an unbiased perspective that doesn’t really know either the comic or the series that well…to me, it seems like an even bigger stretch to say there’s no resemblance at all.
If a comic comes out about a family of five, with a fat idiot father, a punk son, a nerdy and attention starved female middle child, and a baby…you’re going to tell me there’s no resemblance to The Simpsons there?
I just find it odd that a book’s that allegedly targetted towards a female audience features such a blatant cheesecake cover by J Scott Campbell. Not to mention that if they wanted to come out with a book that only female comic book readers wanted to read…it probably wouldn’t sell too well.
I don’t believe books are written or created based on demographics in mind…I think they just make them and whoever buys and enjoys the book becomes the demographic. And you keep going with whatever your original creative direction was, and let whoever you picked up on the way keep following with no regard to who they actually are.
I mean, I’m not allowed to say that I’m not digging a prospective new title if I’m not the target demographic? How do I know if I’m the target demographic or not?
I can’t say anything bad about She-Hulk because I’m not the female lawyer demographic that it’s targetting? Or I can’t say anything bad about Vertigo books if I’m not an indie hipster comic book snob that those books are supposed to target?
Lol, man…whatever.
Then how do you explain titles like Marvel Adventures which is clearly aimed at a younger audience?
Or the Max line or titles featuring teenage characters?
Horror titles?
Hell the superhero is aimed at a specific demographic all on it’s own.
You know exactly what I meant.
Don’t troll.
Sano, would you like Way, Loeb, Winick, and Mackie if they all teamed up to do a Shuma-Gorath giant-size one-shot featuring artwork by Liefeld?! I don’t think I have ever encountered anyone who enjoys Shuma so much.
Marvel Knights 4 by Aguirre-Sacasa was crap. Steve McNiven kept it afloat with his artwork in the early days, but that series was just poorly written. I can’t believe that series could have almost replaced Waid/Wieringo if Marvel didn’t re-hire them.
That’s what I was about to say. If Marvel really wanted to target a female audience, why not advertise the comic in, like, Vogue magazine or on the Lifetime network or something? (To be fair, I don’t read women’s magazines and I don’t have cable TV, so if Marvel HAS been doing that, I admit my mistake. But I doubt it.) I honestly don’t see how a J. Scott Campbell cover is supposed to attract a general female audience by the droves.
Of course, someone here on SRK once told me an indisputable fact that Michael Turner’s Fathom has the largest female readership in all of comics, so what the fuck do I know?
Uh-huh.
This is true, although I would also add that most of the time the companies try to “revamp” or “relaunch” a comic in hopes that they can create a successful formula to sell the most number of copies. Whenever they think they can create a better formula, they’ll just start over with a “bold new direction” and hope it sells even better. At this point, I think they know that their largest demographic is men aged 20 and older. They just keep trying to find ways to sell the most comics to the majority of that demographic.
Haha, dude. Vertigo books aren’t meant for indie hipster comic book snobs. Vertigo books are aimed at smart people. Fantagraphics books are the ones aimed at the pretentious indie hipster demographics. Ain’t you ever read The Comics Journal before?
Look, just because the comic is aimed at a younger audience doesn’t necessarily mean it’s reaching them. I know Marvel Adventures does get some penetration with kids thanks to things like Scholastic book orders, but it’s not like they are the primary reached audience. There’s no way the line could stay afloat if Marvel had to rely only on kids buying those comics. Lots of grown men enjoy reading about the adventures of superheroes like Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four. What’s wrong with that? Some of those issues are actually better than the “real” Marvel universe titles.
Some grown-ass man wants an alternative to the New/Mighty Avengers and can’t get it because Jeph Loeb and Joe Mad fucked up with Ultimates 3? No problem! Marvel Adventures: Avengers saves the day. I am convinced that’s why old dudes buy these comics. Gotta get their fix. Either that, or it’s a case of gotta catch 'em all.
If girls wanted to read comics, then girls would make comics.
See Hope Larson.
Man I can’t wait to read Y the Last Man.
That has nothing to do with the quote I was responding to.
They DO target titles to fit a demographic and they do create series’ with specific types of readers in mind.
If they’re reaching their intended audience or not has little to do with it.
Way - Shuma doesn’t already have a kid on Savage Land so giving him a kid is no problem.
Loeb - Shuma actually has the power to do the things Rulk does.
Winick - If this gets him far away from Dick Grayson, WIN!
Mackie - There’s very few issues for him to reboot.
Liefeld - SHUMA-GORATH HAS NO ANKLES, ELBOWS OR ANY REAL ANATOMY HE CAN SCREW UP!
Shuma-Gorath. Every single person involved in comics is right for the character. AND YOU KNOW THIS MAAAAAAAN!
The manga market loves him.