Marvel Comics Thread

In the early 90’s, there were a huge group of X-Men, Xavier decided to split them into two groups. The Blue team, which consisted of Cyclops (leader) Wolverine, Rogue, Gambit, Psylocke, Beast. The other Gold team was lead by Storm, who’s members included Archangel, Iceman, Colossus, Jean Grey, Forge.

Not sure about the other books, I only really keep up with X-Universe.

When they had Web, Spectacular and ASM, each book had a different purpose. Web was the book where Spider-Man left New York the vast majority of the time. Spectacular was the book that took care of everything that wasn’t dealt with in ASM, mainly dealt with more of his supporting cast, more of his college days when he was in school, more on his neighbors and so on.

Over time all the books became more or less the same. Web had a lot more rotating teams then the other two. ASM has always had more editorial scrutiny than any other Spidey book, sometimes that’s good and sometimes that’s bad.

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Thank you for clearing that up. I have this issue of Web of Spiderman from like 1985 where he goes to Russia, but on the cover he has the back suit on. And this leads to my other questions (since this is a comic book thread…lol):

1: When was the black suit introduced into the spidey universe? (I ask this because in the issue mentioned above Parker takes it off when necessary, but I remember from the animated series that he acquires it when the symbiote first comes in physical contact with him on the space ship where he saved John Jammeson)

2: Is how the cartoon portrayed Spidey getting the symbiote (saving JJ’s son as the shuttle crashed on the Brooklyn Bridge before falling into the river), the same as in the comics?

The way all of the cartoons and the third movie depicted him getting the symbiote is 1,000% wrong. Though the real way involves a lot of other Marvel characters and if they are not going to do Secret Wars then… Wait a minute the 90s cartoon DID do Secret Wars! Hmm wonder why I’m not the biggest fan of that show. :looney:

Secret Wars took all of the heroes away from planet Earth for a while, to a planet called Battleworld. The god Beyonder created that world so the heroes could fight against the villains, kind of like his own social experiment. This was Marvel’s first real comic book crossover (there were others such as everyone vs. Galactus, but SW was on a much grander scale). It was their answer to DC’s original Infinite Crisis.

So the issue he had the black suit in Web came out before he got it in Secret Wars. Because a lot of comics continued after the events of Secret Wars with the heroes back on Earth. But some books that didn’t need some of the characters like New Mutants continued during the Secret Wars (IE the X-Men are away, New Mutants are on their own).

Hmm I’m not sure if I’m explaining this right, but Secret Wars lasted 12 issues and you can’t run a Spider-Man book for a year without Spider-Man. So when Secret Wars #1 came out, the books that needed the heroes just continued after the events of Secret Wars. So we did learn things ahead of time like the black suit, Lockheed making a new mini dragon friend (which of course grew into a giant and almost destroyed Tokyo lol) and Colossus ruined his relationship with Kitty, lots of stuff like that.

During Secret Wars his suit was torn up. There was a machine on that world on the heroes’ base (the god Beyonder created everything) that would make a new suit for you if you just thought of it. Spider-Man had Spider-Woman #2’s Julia Carpenter’s outfit in mind (her black outfit came before Spider-Man’s, which was also funny since the 90s Iron Man cartoon that had black suit Julia was also in continuity with 90s Spider-Man, so I guess her costume was inspired by the villain Venom lol WHAT…) and the machine created a black ball. He grabbed it and the suit oozed on to him thus creating his black suit. It had powers such as it could mimic his clothes, create it’s own webbing and so on.

The reason they made Spider-Man’s suit black originally because they wanted him to be darker, more like say, Batman and Punisher. He wasn’t killing people or anything but he wasn’t cracking as many jokes and he was beating the crap out of people.

No one liked this because, it just wasn’t Spider-Man.

And that’s how the symbiote came about. Because Beyonder did create Battleworld from different planets, they rationalized that the symbiote was from one of these planets and not something the machine created. They also blamed the symbiote for Spider-Man acting so dark.

Then Eddie Brock eventually got it and the rest is history. All in all I think everything worked out really well. Jim Shooter as Editor in Chief of Marvel was the man. :smile:

Umm if you’ll excuse me Sano and I mean no offense, but long story short:
The black Spidey suit was introduced during the Secret Wars crossover in the 80s. Spidey eventually gets rid of the suit issues later and Eddie Brock takes it and becomes Venom.

Speaking of which, where the heck is Carnage?

Dead. (I can give one word answers too). :arazz: J/K :rofl:

Sentry ripped him in half in outer space in New Avengers.

Which story arc was that?

Avengers Reassembled, first few issues of New Avengers.

Iron Man’s computer said Cletus Kassady might not have been in the symbiote when it was ripped in half. Which is the only way Cletus would still be alive if Marvel decides to go with that.

Carnage is said to come back in Dark Reign: Sinister Spider-Man. Cletus, just the symbiote or a new host, we don’t know.

uh i stated the numerous names of Monica

^Ah OK, my bad. …and thanks for clearing that up Sano, I’ll reread that arc.

Carnage is such a stupid 90’s villain.

You can usually tell a lot about a person based on how many image comics characters they like.

If they like them like in a funny ha ha this is a joke way, that’s okay, but some people are really like “Youngblood used to be the shit!”

Well wasn’t Carnage made because fans or Marvel didn’t want Venom to be a murderous psychopath?

…and are me and Sano(?) the only one who read Carnage vs. Venom and Toxin?

I seriously don’t want to look at the X-Force 14 preview :frowning: because I can totally see that Archangel is going to leave, although I hope I’m wrong…

I read the first issue and that’s it. Can’t say I’m a fan of Milligan whenever he does regular 616 stuff. But I love him when he does things like Doop, X-Statix, Dead Girl, things like that. It’s like Zephy always says, there’s 2 Milligans. There’s one “I’m doing this to get paid” Milligan and then there’s the real one. All that Toxin and X-Men stuff, it’s just to pay the bills. The real one wrote the off beat / good stuff.

I never really liked Carnage. I want him to stay dead. He is good for a laugh here and there.

I give him props though because for whatever reason, the only Spidey villains everyone uses are everyone created under Lee/Ditko and Lee/Romita Sr., plus Venom and Carnage. Forget about anyone else created in the 70s, 80s, 90s and 00s. If you spot Morbius or Tombstone in a new Spider-Man comic count your lucky stars.

Doop?

This guy. LOL where’s Zeph?

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Doop

Yeah he had a crossover story with Wolverine. Really good!

Huh, never knew he was a Marvel character. Will look up more into him/her/it.

Oh and anyone else hype for Lockjaw and the pet avengers?

Get out! Lockjaw’s gonna be a pet for them? That’s funny. :rofl:

More like he’s the leader-

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