Yes but an Al-Tariq reference would be lost on everyone. 
Did someone seriously just pull the āIāve been here longer than you, newbieā card on us?
OH SNAPZ
Remember when āThe Comic Book Forumā was just āThe Comic Book Threadā in GD? Where were you? Son, WE WERE THERE. When Fables became FAAAABLES!!!1111ā¦where were you? Son, WE WERE THERE. When Sano was just another bum, turning tricks on the corner so that he could buy issues of Spider-Man/Black Cat: The Evil That Men Doā¦where were you? Son, WE WERE THERE. Now look at Sano! Heās a goddamn moderator, Iām so proud of how far heās come.
Absolutely no respect at all for the founding fathers of this proud forum we now call home.
I donāt even want to participate in this ridiculous discussion regarding the precise definition of the word āevilā and how accurately it describes comic book supervillians.
In no way and at no point did anyone refute the idea that handing the Marvel Universe over to the Green Goblin and then having him delegate to a bunch of other villians is predictable as hell.
Conspiracy time! Who can you trust? Who works for Osborne and who doesnāt? Who are these new heroes, like really, under their masks? They are not as they appear to be! Oh wait, we just did that in Secret Invasion, like ONE FUCKING MONTH AGO.
Oh, new regime, real true American heroes must now go underground, carrying on the fight they believe in even if theyāre no longer legally recognized by the corrupt government! Hero versus hero! Oh wait, we just did that in Civl War, like ONE FUCKING CROSSOVER AGO.
Heās the Green Goblin. Honestly. Itās not even like he was a shady, maybe heās bad maybe heās not guy like the Kingpin or Lex Luthor, who have never explictly been public figures of supervilliany, and are specifically known as shady guys that can and have a lot of control on public perception of themselves. That is not the Green Goblin.
Norman Osborne dressed up as a GREEN GOBLIN (A GOBLIN!!!) on a flying platform and threw exploding pumpkins at people while cackling the whole time. You ever see the Kingpin doing something like that? Heās actually killed innocent people publically, was convicted, he carries a long criminal record. Think Lex Luthor could have made Presidency with that still in his public history? Heās also INSANE, and has relapsed back into supervilliany as the Green Goblin MULTIPLE TIMES. Oh no, but this timeā¦itās different?
And the entire Marvel Universe knows this, regardless of what his current public perception is. There wasnāt some stupid Mephisto recon that magically erased it from history.
In no way is this comparable to Lex Luthor running for President or Kingpin holding any sort of public power. Completely different character archetypes, completely inanalogous guys. Itās just so laughably unbelievable - itās just the wrong guy to do this with, thereās way too much wacky kooky supervilliany history and baggage to the character. He is not Lex Luthor, because Lex Luthor has always (in the current age) been a behind the scenes type of villian that doesnāt pubically embarrass himself fighting superheroes in tights. He is not Tony Stark, namely because Tony Stark was a SUPERHERO and an AVENGER.
Itās ridiculous. The entire setup is absolutely ridiculous. You can accept it and still have fun with the series (which is what Iām going to do) but thereās no way you can seriously argue that itās not a ridiculous suspension of disbelief, at a level that is rarely requested upon from normal comic book readers.
Who are you to be talking so much and not know a single thing about the things youāre saying?
Thorās greatest run with Walter Simonson was like ENTIRELY within Asgard, and almost entirely about Thor hanging with his Godlike homies and fighting the same Godlike baddies every month. It was when things got stupid and Thor got dragged down with stupid Avengers crossovers when stupid stuff like Thunderstrike happened and the book started sucking again. Thor should be above crap like Heroes Reborn and Dissembled and all that, because itās not what the concept of his character and his appeal is about, and itās not what the best Thor stories have been about historically.
None of the best Thor stories involve him running off to Earth to fight some loser supervillians that he could have erased from existence with a single snap of his fingers. Theyāre big cosmic affairs, they donāt involve street level losers like the Scorpion or Bullseye.
But his join date is before mine! I couldnāt possibly have been here! NOTHING MAKES SENSE! You just reminded me. I havenāt read FAAAABLEEEES!!!11!! since the cubs were brought in :(. Time to catch up!
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Who are you talking too, poster whom Iāve never seen before outside of this thread?
You know, we have a General Discussion forum as well, you should maybe check it out from time to time, even if being named after such a wack comic book character is kind of lame. Iām sure youāll be accepted there too though, in time.
I hear that noobs arenāt safe there. Iām not sure I could handle the harsh words and attitudes of others due to my high level of sensitivity and lack of desire to hurt anyoneās feelings. I only picked this username so that the inherent white-ness it portrays would allow me to easily penetrate Asian women. Iām penetrating one as I type. After the first two inches itās like her entire vagina is unused! What a stroke of luck!
Alas, I have been defeated again, even here, in my place of power.
FUUUUHAHAHWHAHWHAWHA
I ALSO HAVE A JOIN DATE BEFORE THEE
And on a serious note, dude get back to FAAAAABBBBLLESSS!!! ASAP its only getting better
This more or less wraps it up for me lol! People going Pro-Reg and Anti-Reg, Iron Man and Captain America beating each other up, so long as itās fun Iām cool with it. Norman running things and having his own Avengers run is fun. I agree that they should of built him up being a good guy a lot longer (like he was just in jail ROFL) but I can see the media building him up as a hero after Secret Invasion, giving the public what they want. A non super powered guy fixing things up after the heroes messed up with Civil War, World War Hulk and Secret Invasion. That was probably on every cover of every paper in the world, a bunch of YouTube bids, heavy press and you know the DB has his back and five people read Frontline lol! Take that and an idiot President, George W. Bush giving him the keys to 616 and there you go. :looney:
I mean it is a super-hero comic and all, thereās always some disbelief involved. Seriously, in a city full of heroes does Spider-Man really need to drop everything and stop Doctor Octopus from tearing up the city? What does every other hero say? āOh thatās one of Spider-Manās guys Iām going back to sleep.ā 
You know itās funny but in the last issue of Secret Invasion the Presidentās hand was colored Brown leading everyone to think it was Obama. Marvel had to retract that and say it was a coloring error (whoa what a coloring error) because heaven forbid Obama makes a bad decision in a fictional comic. Other than knuckle bumping Spider-Man instead of giving him a handshake of course. :lol:
I just realized the both Zephy and clint have been here longer than I. I must kill them and advance on the Winding Way. Oh, yeah. i said it. You forgot about that shit, didnāt you, bitches?
This! Iām SURE being a super-villain is a felony. You canāt even run for public office, but you can lead the strongest military force in the world? Were there really no other choices? The hulk was an ACCIDENT and they shot that nigga into space, meanwhile, GG did his dirt on purpose and he got the biggest promotion ever. Thereās just too much about it that doesnāt make sense. Norman Osborne is not Lex luthor.
I have an impressive join date, but my post count is relatively low. I donāt consider myself a lurker, though; Iām more of the assassin type, stalking in the shadows until the time is ripe to lash out with my intense comic book knowledge with impeccable ninja-like precision. (Unless Iām too damn lazy, in which case I will remain hidden until the day I have the strength to avenge myself on my foes.)
I just think it should be a rule that all debate ends when it gets to Hitler (or bin Laden, as the case may be).
So now that itās settled and we all agree that the whole premise of Dark Reign is absurd but acceptable for entertainment purposes, I wonder what if the 616 President Obama is an idiot or just utterly misled like the rest of the Marvel universeās American denizens? The President doesnāt have enough power or popular backing to shut down Osborn or at least stay investigate him?
Thereās lots of proof that Osborn is an insane murderer. He killed Gwen Stacy. All the New York cops know that. There was also that arc in The Pulse where he murdered some lady, and then when Luke Cage tried to talk to him in public, Osborn (while wearing his business suit) donned his mask and hopped on his glider to fight in public. So itās not like people have never been able to prove heās the Green Goblin. Oh yeah, and in Millarās Spider-Man run he was in prison.
Hard to believe everybody just automatically accepts him just 'cause he happened to kill a Skrull queen. I mean, what if Hitler came back to life and captured or killed bin Laden for us? Would we all embrace Hitler?
Donāt take that from this noob Clint. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Swear at him in caps!
I just read Dark Avengers 1, and I feel dirty for liking it.
I LOVE DARK REIGN!
I also read Scott Pilgrim 5 and thought 4 was better. Scott and Kim need to fuck already. Everyone knows Kim is dat real down ass bitch.
PS - I am glad everyone else sees how retarded the whole Dark Reign premise it. At least Zephy and Clinty, my best comics book forum friends.
If thereās one thing weāve learned, itās that the marvel populace is stupid.
āREVEAL YOUR IDENTITIES! WEāRE TIRED OF YOU DESTROYING OUR PROPERTY!ā
Yes, because taking off your mask makes city blocks immune to your power.
DARK REIGN IS GREAT as long as Bendis and the others wonāt fuck it up
Was or wasnāt the green goblin, Osborn is in charge and only good (in the fucked up great ideas that are fun to read, kinda good) things are coming out of it so far
so just sit back and enjoy the ride
lol coloring error my ass. It is Obama. Hell, they depicted him directly in Thunderbolts (?). Iām pretty sure it was him as Iām certain that Tommy Lee Jones is the Green Goblin.
I thought Marvel had more respect for the office of the PotUS than that, then again these are the guys who work in New York yet published that single most horrible issue ever made with Doom crying (FUCK YOU STRACZYNSKI! Thor 600 wasnāt even good enough to make up for that ASM issue)
Shengy is probably the most strident anti-American in the Comic Book Forum. Too bad his join date trumps all of us. He wins.
Speaking of which, I just finally read the first two volumes of Scott Pilgrim a few days ago. (I owned those books for about a year now and just kept putting it off with excuses, like reading the latest Marvel secret crisis crossover war tie-ins. Iām an idiot, but a repentant one.) Scott Pilgrim kicks ass. Next convention I go to, Iām gonna look for the next volumes in the cheap bins! (I got 1 and 2 at last yearās con for like 2 bucks a pop!) I still canāt believe that Bryan Lee OāMalley is ASIAN! (Clinty confirmed it for me.) This is just crazy, with that name of his! It feels like the time I learned Patrick OāBryant was actually a black dude!
I still canāt believe that Cortland Finnegan isnāt actually a white Irish dude.
But comic book Hitler had Vampires, Werewolves and Aliens on his payroll. And he was a little scrub that Captain America punched in the face all the time. Heād probably mess up the kill shot and shoot Wolverine in the neck or something.
I <3 you guys
CarpetLint: aww manā¦ i love bullseyeā¦
Hitler had vampire/warewolves/aliens(oh my!)? I must have missed that series.
To Google!
For what itās worth it actually was a coloring error.
Miscommunication and so forth.
Too many colorists had to help out and that bit fell through the cracks.
Edit: Now that I think more about it, that would make it an Editorās fault.