Marvel 101 (MvC2 ---> Newbies)

How do i sjc? I dont know if that is suppose to be a tri jump or not.

What the hell does “OCVED” mean?

One Character Victory. Meaning u got beat without the need of switching.

Check out storm at around 1:18 in this clip.
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Thats sjc (super jump canceling)

This is when you cancel a hit to sj by pressing down up really quick just as the move hits. A useful one is with iron man’s crouching mp, he can sjc and start the infinite off it.

Or you might see it with magneto’s standing hk. The hk is a 2 hit combo but you can sjc after the first hit and start the rom infinite off it.

This vid has a lot too. I’ll point them out for you

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1st - 0:46 magneto does st. hk sjc add lp
2nd - 0:52 same thing, but a little harder aftermath. after the hk sjc, addf and lk on other side
3rd - 1:09 same as 1st
4th - 1:15 - 1:26 is all hk sjc add rom
you will see more mag, see if you can catch it

5th - 2:01 storm standing lp lk sjc lk adf lk…

then lots more mag

Its just strict timing. Most people here and even top players can only sjc launchers

there are some easy and some hard. storms s.lk, mags.s.hp/s.hk (once you get used to it), IM s.lk., sentinels moves (and actually a lot more with other characters if you experiment)

also, if you are attempting to sjc a crouching move, make sure you go back to neutral first.

mmds’ post has the rest.

I always see you guys talk about “resets” and ROMS…I would really appreciate it if someone could answer what they are exactly.

ROM is magnetos standard combo. slightly advanced, but still a bread n butter imo. good to learn

resets in simple terms are doing a combo, stopping it, and the mixing your opponent up to get them into another combo. the main benefit is to get more damage (as after so many hits in a combo, the hits do less and less until they do 1 point of damage). the other benefit is to mindfuck your opponent (only if you’re that good/better than your opponent)

resets require you to know many different types of resets, situations, your options, your opponents options, etc. try messing around or watching top magneto player vids for some resets, but focus more on getting them ROMs…and maybe 5 fierces too

Thks for the answer beats.
Another quick qeustion…is IM and WM basically a palette swap?
I know that WM has his war destroyer super…the reason im asking is b/c I only see people using IM and im geussing its b/c his proton cannon is better b/c the characters dont “bounce” out of the super.

war machine is a lot slower. thats why. and the proton canon thing

Ok so I just got MvC2 the other day and I’ve spamming games via friendly matches… and I don’t really see myself improving =/ Any tips on how to get better? And I play a Ken/CapCom/Tron team. I thought about trying team Scrub but I can’t seem to play Cable/Sent worth a damn. And also, whats the difference in player level from friendly matches to ranked matches?

Okay, I really suck. Like “can’t beat the CPU in arcade after stage 4” suck. I think my execution is shit and I’m playing pad, which doesn’t help matters. I can land combos in training mode, but have trouble setting them up and actually killing characters in real matches. Most of my matches go to Time Up, which is just sad.

Should I just stop playing? Or should I stop playing the CPU?

when there are attacks out on the screen, can you still dash forward and backwards with PP? If not can you dash with forward forward and back back? Alot of times, especially dashing backwards with pp magneto does his s.HP that ends up getting me killed, and I dont know if I’m messing up my inputs or if the attacks on the screen are causing it.

And KMD just keep playing/ More training mode until you get your combos down pat. You have to kill characters when you get the chance.

Are Jin, Hayato, Akuma, Silver Samurai and Strider shitty? Because they aren’t in the tier but I think they are the coolest-looking characters in the game. (Not a big fan of marvel comics tbh)
Well I chose the coolest characters from the tier and a team I would make would be:
Strider, Magneto, Blackheart.

lololololol. plz go watch some marvel videos. the answer will be obvious.

All of those characters have their uses, but they have to be used well, and with other characters that compliment them. Strider, for example, is great with Dr. Doom AAA. Jin’s AAA is a great assist. lots of speed and priority. Whacks rushdown the hell away.

Then again, If you choose characters based on ow cool they look, instead of how they play, I’m guessing you don’t want to hear this.

fuck you scrub ass players who pick sentinel as your crutch and still lose. i despise you. i know what your thinking, man, let me spam this assist, and sents strong, ill put him last just in case. you crutch scrub users fucking suck, and you half decent players who still fucking lose with your crutch sent fucking suck. i like when people wait for me to pick, to which i pick fast, because i got my few set teams i roll with. i dont counter pick, i pick who i decided and keep it moving because im not a little bitch. so i love when players go, okay, well those arent top tier characters, ill pick venom, guile, SENT. yeah, dont forget your bitch ass crutch, because when i vortex the fuck out of you with rogue because you dont know what the fuck your doing in this game anyways, your sent wont matter. how about you just learn some fucking team synergy and not just walk around with your fucking crutches on all day.

excuse my rant, but if you wanna play who i pick with team scrub, i aint hatin. who am i to tell you who you feel like playin. i mean, before this online release, most people are use to playing top tier teams in general. i for some reason just have a pet peeve with these crutch players who think that just putting a top tier on their team will prevent their loss. yeah, venom, cammy, cable. yeah, thats a good team. oh, how about guile/tbonne/morrigan, because picking teams out of order is great. i dont know to many teams that have tbonne as second runner up. she is usually the crutch of that team, being last, and being abused. dumb fucks dont even know how to pick teams.

maybe im being an asshole, and these hundreds of players have never seen a mvc2 video in their life, and they are just attracted to the big robot they havent seen since the 1990s cartoon on fox, or maybe you schmucks need to stop walking around on crutches for once, learn how to play a bit, and learn some team synergy. sentinel will not save your fucking life if you suck, and the rest of your team is random shit stacked on random shit. i think new players really have no understanding of why teams are setup the way they are. i see a lot of mps teams. psylocke is third string you asshole. im irritated. lol! :slight_smile: dont try to pick a team similar to my tiers, and then end it with a top tier. dont disrespect me like that. just pick scrub/santhrax, whatever, and lets go. although i get tons of joy of destroying sents in 10 seconds or so.

special shoutout to you clowns thinking your cute because you got a little run in the room, so you see me pick my low tier team, only to have you try to match me, even though you were just playing scrub or something, and i come in and ocv your ass with rogue. then you get your chance for revenge and pick scrub, or some version of something involving sent and cable, only to have me pound your fucking head in again. also, news flash, you dont have to get raped because somebody dashed under you and crossed you up when your new characters comes in. although i love it, because i take 90 percent on your 2nd or 3rd character for free.

sometimes thats not the case. ill be observing them doing mid/low tier matches, and i start bustin heads, so then they just give up on their previous characters and try to take me out with top tier teams, which is usually still not helpful. it just seems filled with bitchassness. come on son. lets go. dont substitute characters for skill. lets go with what you was running before. take them L’s and get better.

But this thread is to help newbies :rofl:

Nah man seriously, I totally understand where you’re coming from. And it’s not just Sent most of these players online are using just for assist. I ALWAYS see people stick in tron/capcom on their team just because. It’s always BOTH of them sometimes too, so like if I down their main guy or snap him out, they’re like “FUCK” and start panicking trying to switch him/her back in.

Honestly, I love tearing apart any Sentinal good or not. A scrubby Sent just being used for assist puts a smile on my face when I get him all alone and the guy has no idea but to laser/rocket punch all day.

Worst is a runaway team set up to build 5 meters for Cable and then go for unblockable AHVB spam.

Of course they lose like 99% of the time, but it’s annoying because you have to chase them down because they absolutely will not engage you.

Here is a tip for you new players.

Pick 2 of the following characters (they have to be partners)

  1. storm sent*
  2. Sent Cable*
  3. Mag storm
  4. Mag cable

For teams 1 and 2, use the following assist as the 3rd character

  1. Capcom (anti-air)
  2. Cyclops (anti-air)

For teams 3 and 4, use the following assist as the 3rd character

  1. Psylocke (anti-air)
  2. Cyclops (anti-air)
  3. T. Bonne (projectile)
  • means those 2 characters are interchangeable.

Start with that. After you master those, then you can slowly start using teams with no assist such as Mag Storm Sent or Mag Cable Sent.

Iron man can be learned next as you progress. Stick to only these teams if you are serious about the game and want to get good. If you are not serious, continue to pick guile

I like this.

Im a beginner pretty much and Ive been fucking around trying to find a good team. Ive been using Mag/Sent/Tron lately. I don’t get how mag is good without psylocke assist though, Like for me it feels like its impossible to get in, especially vs cable or sent.

my strat behind my mag/sent/tron team is basically to get in from the start with mag, go for a mixup, and if it gets blocked, I throw out tron so they cant really punish me, then I try to get back in there. the problem is that It feels like my defensive options are limited. I try to pick Sents Launch assist and hope that hits when Im getting rushed down and if sents assist does hit, I dash in with Mag ,and start a mixup, wash rinse repeat…

of course this is all theory and this rarely ever works against decent/good players.

what happens Is I guess wrong from the start and I cant ever really get in, and mag gets fucked up. My sent cant really contain someone and keep people grounded without an AA assist on my side, so he gets fucked up, and tron probably kills one character, so their second character comes out (usually storm or sent) and thats Game.

but has anyone else tried a team similar or have any tips on using this team this way? what I want to know is generally how to approach someone with this team, a team like this, or in mvc2 in general what are you supposed to do to get close?

Im so eager to step my game up to the next level so any help is appreciated.