how are people going to block? I have never actually blocked yuns cross under shoulder thing?, this seems worst! I guess random reversal!!!
You can get a feel for the ranges where it will and won’t cross up after the first couple of times you get hit by it.
But you WILL get hit by it the first few times you come across it. Expect a ton of early hate mail about tier whoring. Assuming this change sticks of course.
People are really bad at blocking Yun cross under shoulder already, this thing will decimate some people.
Can you get a normal hayate after it as a juggle ? Or do we need to spend a 3rd ex ?
EX Fuck-iage
i don’t think its possible to block this mixup on reaction, some of these options are true 50/50 or worse for the opponent.
eg:
late jump hp reset -> ex fuki [hits frontside]
late jump hp reset -> kara ex fuki [hits crossup]
hopefully someone can test it in the alpha builds; it’s possible that they moved the hit of ex fuki in ultra.
I don’t like her having something that’s too strong but this might bring back that 3rd strike feel of 1 mixup and you’re dead kinda thing lol except here it’s probably 3…
and if they manage to block right, you can jump cancel it to make it safe or to continue pressure. this is broken, people!
Hugo is going to be a nightmare for us it looks like. A legit good grappler character in SF4, who knew?
Could be problematic, but honestly, I really would have to play the match up to know if it’s bad or not.
Really hard to know when theorycrafting.
Well, from what I can tell:
No jumps allowed, ever
His SPD puts him ridiculously good oki position
He takes us to the corner off one running grab
EX Lariat has a point of armor and knocks down
We’re one Ultra Throw away from eating an U2 at all times
All looks bad on paper.
ExOroshi throw invincible seems confirmed:
"Makoto EX oroshi buff is the best. It’s throw invincible so you can’t just throw her on wakeup anymore."
"Crossup mk is really good for Makoto."
https://twitter.com/_ETR/status/406330711314939904
"Makoto throw changes are VERY noticeable, both ways. Kara forward throw has ridiculous range."
https://twitter.com/_ETR/status/406328266484506624
and in the next build ExFukiage will no longer be JC on guard, only on hit:
https://twitter.com/_ETR/status/406545261805051904
yeah, they have only just started making changes to ex fukiage lol although not being JC on block was something obvious to me but whatever with the crazy A$$ devs at Capcom…
anyway, ex oroshi being throw invincible is fantastic! that coupled with the delayed wake up will put her up there!
Yeah the JC on block thing was the extra broken icing on an S Tier cake lol, I ain’t even mad that’s gone. Now the question becomes just how negative you’ll be on block, as there has been no such thing as “on block” for Fukiage in this game until now.
sjc cancel on block was a bit of a dream, but That’s fine.
I’ll take ex oroshi throw invu over that any day.
I’m a bit worried about the throw range thing. I like my backthrow. 
Translation for non french people :
Ex fuki > jHP reset into Another Ex fuki can only hit front.
Kara ex fuki end up behind but does not hit
I’m actually happy to hear that! now I don’t have to worry about grounded fuki being too strong. if this is actually the case, then we can rely on it giving us that midscreen damage that we expected and not “nearly unblockable resets.”
besides, I prefer them fixing it right now rather than letting me get kiddy with power after launch then taking it away from me in future updates.
also, with the delayed wakeup, ex fuki hitting grounded, forward throw extra range, back throw may not be the way to go in ultra.
I would still take a back throw.
So no reset shenanigans. Still fine though, a solid midscreen damage option is still a tremendous buff. And I finally got my j.mk crossup buff I’ve been asking for since Super. Overall I am very pleased with how USF4 Makoto is looking, she’s gonna slide right into Top Five no problem I feel, and I couldn’t ask for any more than that.
Okay, saw a bit of Makoto versus Hawk and Hugo at Super arcade
Look like it’s going to be hard for us.
EX Fukiage on hit didn’t look that broken also.
elaborate on those MUs…