Wait, if jump cancel is gone on her regular fukis that takes away her strings ending in lp Fuki > Tsurugi doesn’t it? Or am I reading that wrong?
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- +4 recovery frame on every whiffed karakusa
- backthrow range: 0.90 => 0.85
- forward throw range: 0.90 => 0.95
These changes lead me to believe there may be a buff in either start up or range of karakusa others wise these make no sense.
Also, more recovery on whiffed Kara? You’re already dead if you whiff it so it doesn’t really even make that big of a difference…
-Having only EX Fukiage jump cancelable would fucking nosense. With a nerf like that having the new EX Fuki doesn’t seems that rewarding.
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More recovery on whiffed karakusa don’t change that much,but I don’t see a reason. I think 47f is enough,with that Capcom adds more risk in every karakusa attempt. With U1 damage nerf is this necessary?
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In USF4 we can go for setups no more with delayed standing,so why nerf even the backthrow?
If the shit above is even 90% true,I insist for some hidden buffs.
whiffed karakusa has more recovery than Ultra1 now !
By the way, your question about jump cancel regular fuki, I guess regular fuki aren’t jump cancelable on block, but regular fuki don’t hit ground, you they never hit block.
Kind of pointless to say.
EX Fuki being jump cancelable on block is such a surprise to me. Almost as surprising as EX Fuki hitting ground in the first place.
cross down EX Fuki the same way Yun can do crossdown shoulder sounds way too good to be true lol. Hit confirm out of a low ? EX fuki on block > instant tsurugi ?
So many possibilities…
OK, only ex fuki being jump cancellable makes sense now. I think this is actually the case! I was woundering why they would make ex hayate useless with this fuki buff and now I know how they balanced it off. if, that’s the case we’re gonna need mad meter to do anything in the corner or midscreen, ex tsurigi only after ex fuki now. if this is true, WHAT HAVE THEY DONE!!!
I always thought this grounded ex fuki was a bad idea, the UCI damage reduction, the reduced back throw range??? how is this a better makoto??? they just brought her back a step if you ask me!
can someone please confirm this whole jump cancel BS!
Crossup grounded EX fukiage existed in SFIII. Not ground breaking but jump cancel into focus-dash would be nice since it could be a safe mixup. Anything else would probably be punishable.
Actually Vryu said on Twitter that according to multiple japanese players, regular fukiage is no more jump cancellable BUT, I just saw this video from srk rebalance request thread:
Jump to 1:58, the makoto player is performing the corner combo and even if the video is crappy I’m quite positive he used regular fukiage and jump canceled it.
At least that’s what I’m seeing.
Yeah, it does indeed look like a regular Fukiage. Nice find.
yup! it is a regular fukiage into ex tsurigi, check out the meter usage, only 2 bars were used up during the combo! SWEET! I’m so relieved…
Confirms you can’t 100% trust these rumours. Waiting for an official changelog myself
Is it weird that I’m way more excited about j.MK actually crossing up consistently than Fuki hitting grounded? That shit is just beautiful.
Confirmation:
Regular fukiage ARE jump cancelable.
Just waiting on karakusa thing translation. Im pretty sure they increased recovery by 4F, but im still waiting.
I breathe a sigh of relief for makoto players, That nerf on regular fukiage would’ve been fucked up. You guys are going to be doing mad damage with ex fukiage buff, Meanwhile, Oni’s U2 input is changed to HCB. Yay, so much difference, now I start off with the worst input!
Does the very end of this show grab invincible EX.oroshi?! Or was yang just out of range?
j.MK looks great so far.
EX.fukiage hitting on ground makes for a easier/stronger stun reset if you have meter. Don’t have to wait for the airborn frames on crumple and can add in a HP. Or just skip the focus attk and go j.HK -> s.HP -> EX.fukiage -> j.HP reset if that’ll do more damage.
Does karakusa startup look faster?
I’m hoping the karakusa translation is referring to a positive change in recovery frames, as in positive/better for makoto players, as in less recovery frames 
f.LK Kara f.throw is going to be even better with the new range!
Edit: oh and do all tsurugis knock down now air2air? Or are my eyes playing tricks on me…
it gives more utility to forward throw which currently isn’t used unless you’re going for stun. I’ll play around with it.
So happy about this,I’ve also tweet you yesterday about the fukiage. Nice timing xD
But we didn’t need range on forward throw, forward LK kara forward throw already has a crazy range.
They should increase the stun on that forward throw while they’re at it lol
I agree. Double that mofo!