You can’t magically ultra out of hitstun. You missed the link and he mashed out, plain and simple. Go practice it
Yeah eating ultras means that you fucked up the combo. It happens to me ALOT. I mainly eat ultras between the st.hp and the hp hayate buffer. I sometimes accidentally short charge the hp hayate, which means that it WON’T combo from st.hp. I eat an ultra shortly thereafter. The short charge is way too fucking sensitive IMHO. I don’t even bother using hp hayate anymore though. It’s mp hayate all the way! mp hayate will still combo if you accidentally short charge it, AND the short charge version does more damage/stun than a normal hp hayate.
You can os with st lp like any other normal.
Also about punishing back dashes, f + hp, hp is the move to use (in both OS’s and reaction/anticipation punishes). About tight ososhi pressure, meaty st mp xx lp oroshi is tight, at worst you trade a jab for an oroshi (a trade in your favour).
Alright, good stuff. I’ll try to apply more OS stuff when I start to see more backdashing. Thanks, I really appreciate it
See this is what I meant: http://www.youtube.com/user/FrameAdvantageDotCom#p/u/9/v4ulx-qL_8k
Just run away from her and zone her out and there’s nothing she can do thanks to her terrible walking speed.
That Makoto is garbage. Zero patience.
Also, Boxer jumped in around a dozen times and didn’t get anti-aired even once when it should have been a free cr.MK (into dash-under) or Ultra every time.
If you want to prove a point, don’t link to a horrible player to do it.
This. That guy made a lot of mistakes… Whether it was tourney jitters or just bad execution, you can’t link vidz of solid play vs shaky play, and then say that’s the way the match up goes…
yea I kinda forgot to watch the vid till now but yea. That makoto player didn’t do anything…like nothing. Boxer got free jump ins because he didn’t stick out any of Makoto’s AA tools. Also does anyone know if Makoto’s j.Fierce beats Boxer’s cr.Fierce? I’d figure it would.
It was like he was trying to play turtle with a turtler and obviously it didn’t work. Plus the one Karakusa grab he got, he did a measly knockdown…then didn’t capitalize on it. The Boxer player had no reason to do anything but cr.Jab it out.
I think we need to test and see if EARLY j.HP beats c.HP from Rog and Guile… If it does, that would be SO helpful for Mak.
From what I’ve tested against Rog, it doesn’t work, but it’d be nice for others to test it just in case I made an error. As for Guile, I’d like to know as well.
I don’t know, it seems a bit tacky to make such general statements bashing the guy. I understand you’re making a counterpoint about balance but I’m at least glad to see people playing her in tournaments.
I know we seemed harsh. I’m sure the guy is a decent player… Tourney jitters still get to me. Just saying, the play shown was not good enough to base the character on.
Really, we didn’t mean any disrespect to the player. And we have respect for picking Mak in a tourney, then not counterpicking after the first loss.
Against Guile, I wouldn’t risk air attacks too often. He has an air throw which you’re only going to beat with j.lk or j.lp I believe. Remember, he can bait you to jump and he can get a free air grab.
Has anyone else been playing Ding Dong Ditch like I have with Makoto?
I feel like that’s the safest way to play her until you’ve figured out the other player or you gain some momentum. I just dash in there, try to go for some damage, and run back out.
It’s actually kind of fun, and in a way, it somehow feels like El Fuerte, who I also main.
It’s kind of a long-range poking game…
It’s more a shortcoming of the internet than anything. Just no point in skewering one of our own.
This is basically how I play her, too. Slowly creep up to opponent via. f.lk, poke a little and fish for counter hits(f.mp, s.mp, s.hk, whatever you want), throw in some max range tsurugis. Once i get a reset, the mix ups begin.
how do you guys apply wakeup pressure against Bison (dictator). People say he’s free on wakeup but I feel like I always gotta be mindful of EX PC, EX Headstomp/DR and backwards Teleport. Is there any universal option that that covers that stuff? st.mp option select? Although that may lose to EX PC (?). I really fucking hate this match. Any general tips would be appreciated as well. What ultra do you guys use for this match? I’ve been using Ultra 1 mainly because it combos from Karakusa. I run into a ton of Bisons who spam cr.jab/short up close, and EX Karakusa is great from grabbing them through that bullshit, provided that you’re in range.
Also, are you guys finding that the more you play her the more you’re running into matches decided by time-overs? I’m having a shitload of matches where the Ryu/Guile/Blanka/Boxer/etc player doesn’t want to fucking move and I can’t RISK being the one to initiate offense because of all their punishment options. Ultimately all these matches run the whole fucking 99 second duration. Christ, if I wanted to play this patiently I woulda played a charge character. :lol: Well at least these matches are teaching me more patience. Also why is it that damn near every charge character (especially Guile, Blanka and Balrog players) feel the need to hit you with a combo, JUMP BACK AAAAAALLLL THE WAY to the opposite corner, and taunt? LOL. 90% of the people who taunt are playing charge characters.
If they hop to one corner i’ll just FA absorb 1/4 of my health bar then jump over their fireballs, though i’ve accidentally got hit by one and dropped my health to half before lol. If they decide to play the patience game i’ll do the same but make sure i build meter. Tsurugi if i neutral jump or he does nothing if we’re both in the corners.
The only timeouts i’ve seen lol is sadly i joined a blanka game set to 1 round 30 seconds… i lost.
i think it trades hits. i fought one yesterday and the video should be saved on my hdd. ill upload it tomorrow if i can.
Yeah I try to be careful with how many FBs I absorb. I will absorb 3 FBs at max before I start jumping over them (or simply block them). I hate abosrbing a bunch only to eat a random attack and lose all that health lol.