Makoto AE 2012: the nerfage

Yeah, but if we could block it, we could EX Karakusa it. If not, we could c.MK/LP Fukiage/s.LP. Very OP suggestion.

You think so? In 3s she recovers just in time to block right? Or was there no EX Karakusa? I dont’ know… I just know she recovered in time to block/parry if Karakusa whiffed.

No armored EX Karakusa in 3S.

TBH if there was one thing I’d kill for with Makoto it is some sort of launcher that doesn’t require charging or EX meter. Like Yun/Yang’s close MK or Ibuki’s close HK or Dudley’s c.HK (notice a pattern? Every other 3S char has a normal that causes float :P)

Is it just me, or is Makoto’s walk speed higher in 3S than in SF4?

Just saying, you wouldn’t be able to EX Hayate since you blew meter on the Super… :stuck_out_tongue:

LMAO you’re right! too much training mode for me lol!!!

still would be OP though lol.

I’ve noticed that in training mode if you activate super and try building meter you can do EX Oroshi while you are in super , dont know if it’s a bug , but it works lol …

I think her hayates will be pretty much useless (except after stun) 3 seconds on her super is very good though… just imagine … 3 fuckin seconds … you can do ultra 1 and then have like 4-5 more seconds for another mixup (which can resolve to your opponent dying obviously) and the suggestion with the 3 frame advantage feels like someone wants genei jin for makoto … lol imagine genei jin for makoto … that’d be so OP … like if you catch someone in the air fuki>hayate>fuki>hayate>fuki>hayate>kara fuki>hayate>tsurugi>cross over in the corner > karakusa xD

dont’ see how that’s any stupider than KARA PALM KARA PALM KARA PALM KARA PALM RESET CROSSUP SHOULDER INTO ULTRA

I dont know why but I have NEVER been hit by a cross up shoulder , I always block it when I get reset cause it’s so damn obvious, blackadde when are we gonna see your Makoto, I’m interested

haha who knows. i’m nothing special. i have shitty reactions and i don’t really have the time to play much these days, so i’m trying to contribute by analysis and writing instead.

Of course, the 3 seconds of super means more time you can’t build meter or use EX moves. I know I personally would still rather have 2 EX moves in stock than use Tanden Renki in about 85% of situations. (yes, only TWO ex even though tanden renki uses the full super bar. That is how little I think of the super.)

It should only work if you have Super meter on Infinite. It doesnt’ work otherwise IIRC.

I hope it all works out for you guys. I never picked her up but I love makoto gameplay and I would hate to see her drop out of A tier. pretty damn well designed character imo

Looks like on the 30th of this month we find out if Makoto is safe. Final change-log!

Better crossup j.mk.
Better crossup j.mk.
Better crossup j.mk.
Better corssup l.mk.

Yeah i’d sacrifice an active frame or two for a better hitbox…

Yeah, Makotos cross up MK is bad…I’d love for it to get better, at the moment I think I’ve just abandoned even trying to go for cross up MK. We’ll see what happens.
Adons cross up LK or cross up MK though, freakin’ cross up for days, and then Bison…like every J.normal is a cross up and he even has cross up Psycho Crusher hates Bison. D:

i never used j.MK as a crossup…better off just doing tsurugi. if they put a “secert buff” for that be more then happy to use it.

also i like to bring this back up for lol sakes Makoto AE 2012: the nerfage

You should use it! She has a pretty good ambiguous setup with j.hp (non-crossup)/ j.mk (crossup).

… Two days before final changelog guys, let’s all join hands and hope! >.<