I’ve spent many years playing in arcades using happs before I could really afford a stick.
Learning to execute a move will allow you to play with anything. If you have the execution, you can play with any controller not just expensive controllers. Hell, I started out with KOF 1997 with a DPad and playing sf2 on a snes dogbone controller. So you assume that if you get a SE stick instead of a TE version, you’ll do much worse? Please, spare me from your bullshit. :lame:
Oh, one more scenario.
You don’t need a logitech g15 keyboard or a g5 mouse to be good at first person games. Now ask yourself, can you be a better player if you used the best computer peripheral to play games?
All I know is the TE was the first Madcatz product I’ve ever bought that I didn’t regret owning. I was pleasantly surprised with the packaging and overall fit/finish.
i can play just fine with either stick or pad controller
however if the controller itself is poor quality and the buttons lag, it can inhibit you from doing things like pressing three buttons at once. you might physically be pressing all three buttons at one but the controller wont register it in sync, which will prevent you from doing a super or wave dashing.
also if the button only registers half the times you press them, then it can fuck up your game. if to have to input a command twice then your timing is already off which will severely hurt your game.
i actually do have a g15 and i love it. i can type in complete darkness and still see the keyboard because of the lights. it also has programmable macro buttons that is pretty useful.
You’ve completely miss-read (or failed to read) what everyone else is saying. No one is saying you should play on a broken controller, but rather that if the quality of the buttons or joystick isn’t pristine, someone who is good at the game will still be able to play well.
No one is saying you’re going to be pulling off the raging demon without a low kick button, or parry without moving forward, but rather that someone who has put in their time, and practiced is going to be able to do either of those on the $150 Tournament Ready button with a Sanwa stick and buttons, or the $40 Pelican stick with cheep Chinese knockoff buttons. Broken =/= Lower quality. Broken is fucking broken.
You got a defective stick? Shit happens. This is why companies have warranties. if I buy a Western Digital hard drive and it comes with a loose platter and its making grinding noises, does that mean every WD hdd is defective? No. it means I have a defective product, and I contact the company to sort it out.
And I did? I used the terms with dollar amounts to qualify the comparison, never in there did I state that you’re paying to be better, you seem to be making that connection yourself. Infact, I stated that someone who is a good player can play on lower quality hardware and still be great. I’m happy that we meet eye to eye on that, but you still haven’t actually taken the time to comprehend what anyone has wrote in this thread.
As for your second part of your post. I’ve already clarified that too. Broken does not mean that the quality of the button is bad. It means the god damn button is broken. I’ve played on low quality pads with cheep buttons and sticks, and I can never say that I have failed to pull of a super or any other move because of the “quality”. Sanwas/Semitsus break too. I can say that it’s been different than the fluid movement of my JFL and the softness OSBN’s, but much like a professional driver, you figure out how to work with what you have, and if you’ve got a car with a bit of an over-steer problem, you learn to deal with it and perform to the best of your ability with the tool you have.
You seem to fail to be able to grasp the concept that lower quality parts still work in the same manner as the sanwas. I’ve been going to arcades and playing fighting games in friends basements on nice cabinets, shitty cabinets, good sticks, and shitty sticks. I can frankly say that I have never failed to pull off a move because of the quality of the stick. It being broken is a completely different story.
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Right, and as you’ve been told. No one expects you to play on a broken cabinet and do well. All anyone in this thread has said is that yeah, sometimes buttons don’t depress as well as you’d like, maybe it’s really sticky. Maybe the stick doesn’t move as well as you’d like it. they still make contact? Then shut up and play. The way to pick out a scrub is if they bitch about the quality of a cabinet, the rest of us get the hell on with it. Something wrong with a button? Go get the damn arcade tech, or contact your stick manufacturer because somethings wrong. Things break, defects happen.
Also, don’t double post. Theres an edit button for a reason. See how I used it?
well i have a friend who has a homemade cabinet and the controllers both use happ parts, however they both have different pcbs.
player one works perfectly but player two doesnt work so well.
for player one the super comes out every time but for player two it comes out every 1 in 5 times. jab strong and fierce all work individually but if pressed together it doesnt dash.
the controller isnt broken. its just shitty quality
Agreed. With shitty controller, I couldn’t execute anything correctly. With the sanwa parts, I executed the moves and learned to play the game. What is it with sanwa that’s different from another cheap home controller? Well I can’t quite put my finger on it…
I always had to substitute a special move like dragon punch with a regular fierce uppercut… Does good damage with uppercut but it aint as cool as a dragon punch. Also if I knew how do a dragon punch before I would’ve chain it with uppercut crossing into a dragon punch for a two hit combo. This doesn’t make me a good strategist but I’ve become better than I was before.
My friend is a great player. He plays great with decent controllers. He can beat me and my friends. Give him a SANWA, he becomes god-like - double perfects most of the time. Go to a competition, every little edge matters.
Ultimately practice is key. In my first post, I said the controller can cultivate into making you a better player. Maybe you can’t be like Michael Jordan but certainly you can become better in basketball than you are now… (practice) and accelerate that learning curve through crowd cheers and right mentoring in the right environment (cultivating). Certainly I practiced alot with my sanwa controller however it was that same sanwa controller that sparked the best street fighter experience out of me - I couldn’t execute any moves correctly since street fighter 2 first came out (1991) in the arcades until this year with a SANWA (yes I did spend lot of coins in the arcades and also played alot in my friends house).
“That brings us back to the email I received today. Joe had received the package and went immediately to play some of his favorite games. He was able to pull off moves that he had never been able to accomplish before using game pads or commercial sticks. You can tell by reading the letter that he was completely satisfied with the end result. It is replies like this that keep me coming back for more. I don?t get to play my favorite games much anymore but I can still live it through customers like Joe.”
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If its broken PCB, just replace it with a Cthuhlu board.
But like said before a good equipment can cultivate your skills in a better way… or even accelerate it. Its a catch 22. And you completely ignore the fact that better doesn’t mean that you have to be better than some other skilled player. You can compare and see your skills progress with a equipment that fits yourself… as in my previous post that you ignore to read. : ) But no one is forcing you to read it … :wgrin:
