The only Equal to Don when it comes to pimpin on Madmen is Roger.
^And barely at that. Roger likes to cry and whine to his women often. It’s kind of cute to them I guess.
Well this was a much better episode than the last three and I take it the show will continue on this steady upwards pace of quality. I like that Dawn might have a more interesting role to play besides just being the black secretary. I also hope that season 7 of Mad Men will mimic Breaking Bad’s 5.5 with the total destruction of it’s main character. Don’s antics have hit an all time high and I need to see his world crash around him. The last episode has to end with him taking off all his clothes and walking to the shoreline. Die Don die!
I’m really liking Stan this season. sick threads, a beard for the record books, constantly getting high, and his telephone relationship with Peggy is really endearing (even though that’s probably gone totally sour). he seems like one of the few remaining amiable people at SCDP.
i’m not sure how i feel about the new season. part of me gets this strange feeling like the show doesn’t take itself seriously enough sometimes. i’ve also rolled my eyes at a few scenes that i felt were too predictable and cliche (like when pete’s wife found out, we all knew she was going to turn into some awesome tigress that whipped him down - because that’s what always happens with the sweet/soft female character. i just imagined someone saying ‘you go girl!’ and cringed)
i dunno man. i’m going to give it some more time but i’m feeling less interested in the series so far.
bright spots are enough to keep me coming back though. whoever mentioned don subtly sabotaging his own pitch - that was golden, hearkens back to those old days of mad men when most of us lived to see don in those moments using his wits and swag to bring home the kill.
i’m a simple viewer and many of the complexities, while not escaping me, bore me.
Even when the show has slipped, it’s still a more thinking piece of 60 minutes than most things on television. If this is what constitutes a bad “bad” season for Mad Men, I’m OK with that. However, yes, I agree, I’m not getting that same rush I did last season. Also, I’m going to blame this simply on age, but I just don’t have the energy to dissect television anymore. This has been a growing trend in me and I’ve just decided to indulge it because honestly, it’s easy.
I don’t think you’re supposed to enjoy dissection, so much as dissect your enjoyment.
Pardon me if that sounds ridiculously clever.
Seriously, though, you can gain more appreciation for your experience by examining the things that made it happen, but in the end, the experience was still based on the simple pleasures of charming images and words. Unraveling something you didn’t really enjoy in the first place isn’t going to do much for you.
Again, I caution everyone that this season is just getting started and that this show has never stormed out of the gate with guns blazing. It’s always been a slow play. I’ve enjoyed season 6 so far, even if I will echo everyone else’s observation that it seems to be a series of vaguely connected vignettes so far without much of an evident sense of direction. We’re in good hands.
Season 4 & 5 were pretty captivating opening~wise, at least for me.
lol Don is the epitome of a hypocrite, it’s almost sad his level of selfishness is, and how he ironically found the couples’ approach so “vulgar”.
Harry Crane is gettin’ a little too big for his britches. It’s like every character is working hard to be unlikeable.
The most unrealistic portion of this ep was cute secretary Dawn finding it hard to get a man. The shoe shine ignores you? Really REALLY?!
But the integral part for me was the Heinz pitch, as a graphic designer I must say that Don’s team was superior. The minimalism was engaging and left enough to the imagination that made one actually visualize the taste and feel of said ketchup. Peggy’s pitch on the other hand, was just direct and boring, only made intriguing by her false affectations towards the brand. The artwork was bland and too oversaturated with red as well.
Yeah, that was my reaction to the dueling campaign pitches as well. Don’s was smart, accessible, and engaging. Peggy’s seemed to be tailor-made to stroke the egos of the people buying the work.
Don’t be afraid to just say you are bored.
The first episode was boring man. Sometimes good stuff is boring, you watch it once and never watch it again, like the King’s Speech.
Also sometimes it’s annoying to have to dissect every fucking thing, that is why I love Justified now. It’s well acted, I enjoy the fuck out of it, and it’s not all like “LOOK HOW DEEP THIS IS”.
Sometimes it’s just as hard to make something that is well done and just able to be enjoyed as it is to make multilayered mature television that is character driven.
I liked the episode, but one thing that is starting to bother me in Mad Men is how dumb every company seems to be. How many great Ads is Don going to get rejected?
Peggy’s ad was “Here is a ketchup bottle”, Don’s was like “This will make you think about Ketchup, THE ONLY KETCHUP, all the time” What the fuck Heinz, I guess if I was Don I’d be like “Fuck the world” too.
This season is going extra hard with the parallels and “slick” little comparisons so far, does everything need to be an ironic moment to show Don is bad?
it is so weird when crane acts like he has a pair. it’s strange. i like how roger and burt handled it - pay him a bunch of money and hope he goes away
^But he won’t go away. The problem is that he doesn’t know how to approach his superiors. He’s been right about things often but goes about it all the wrong way.
I thought his dig at “making deals at night” or whatever his words were to be really poignant since it could easily apply to accounts in general and not just Joan. It’s not like Pete and co don’t use prostitutes and general debauchery to land clients.
It was actually pretty painful seeing the Heinz dude’s corny ass grin to such an aggrandizing pitch. YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKER! YOU JUST LOST 100 MILLION DOLLARS IN SALES!!!
To be honest, if the writers actually created all those great ads from scratch without professional aides I’ll be impressed. Throughout the seasons they’ve done well in deciphering what it means to captivate a consumer with an idea or cultivate an emotion through visual imagery.
Carousel…
He was due for an office flip-out though, so was Ken, even though he didn’t go in like Harry. Him bringing in that hefty sum of money gave like +12 to his Clout ranking. LOL, at him putting Joan on Full Blast™ in front of everyone. Harry’s blowup was mostly due to bad timing with him feeling himself after the deal but then seeing his secretary getting peaced out. Hence the Tyra Banks, “You don’t even know what I had to go through!” speech of righteous indignation.
Does Pete really care about the struggles of minorities? And who was that black woman that came into Peggy’s office?
Also what a fantastic episode. His death is just what the characters needed to knock their heads out of their asses.
You would expect Pete and probably most of the rich white men of SCDP to be at least a little racist. The fact that Pete was THAT offended came off as not being genuine to me. Nobody would have batted an eye at a comment like Harry made in 68. This episode was a bit of a bore and only served to give a nod to an event that happened in the time period. It was kind of a filler episode handled effectively but offered no real story line or character progression. Don boo-hooing about how he doesnt really love his kids? I dunno. Im not trying to troll, this ep just didnt really do it for me.
The episode was worth it so see Bobby’s brain explode at the end of Planet of the Apes.
No, it’s fashionable for white liberals to pretend they are post-racial and make racist jokes to prove they are post racial. Take it from a white liberal.
I just make racist jokes because black people are the worst. Right Rock B?
"He’s not that important"
POW! Right In Da Kissah!
Of course scumbag Pete was being disingenuous, he was merely projecting his failed marriage alongside Dr. King’s tragic death. He was venting his personal frustrations on Harry, nothing more.
That scene with Don talking about his kids, damn that made the ep for me. His son was basically wallpaper until the father-son date to the cinema.
Oh and Ken seems to be the only guy who can both do his job and actually keep a stable domestic life (afaik), aka relegated to a 3rd tier character. lol