i’m rewatching season 2.
really enjoying Don’s swag level.
his bemused smile as duck is trying to bring him in line.
“don, you can honor your contract, or walk out that door with nothing and start selling insurance.”
one of my favorite scenes EVER. cuz as the audience, you already knew what Don was going to say and when he said it, it was like "ughh! take that Duck! you are NOT the father!"
I’m a season behind, but luckily Netflix just added the most recent season via streaming, and I marathonned it over the course of 2 days. Did not see that thing with Peggy coming, though of course I should have. Or Lane, for that matter, but that one was harder to see.
Great moment when he went to start his car, though. Absolutely perfect.
edit: reading through the last few pages of old (then-current) posts. Drunk Peggy (extorting Roger, hanging out with Black girl, sweating) is indeed high tier.
On money: Lane mentioned owing $8,000 in taxes in taxes, IIRC. Adjusted for inflation, that’s $57,000. So it was a pretty big deal. Likewise, Peggy getting Roger for $400 means she got almost 3k in cash.
This last season (5) was probably my favorite overall, replacing 2, which was the first season I watched. I'm not sure I'd recommend S5 to new viewers, but it was still pretty great.
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Of drama television. Simpsons season 8 is still the best season of television ever made.
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Also, I hate to be That Guy, but the downhill slide had already started by season 8.
There are a lot of episodes that people consider to be classics (the Flanders home getting destroyed, Poochie etc), but judging by the impossible standard set by the earlier seasons of the show, it comes up a little short.
8 and 9 are when the troublesome elements started to creep in–mainly lots of meta-humor, celebrity guests, travel episodes, etc.–but they weren’t nearly so problematic back then, because the stuff that always made the show great hadn’t eroded yet. Once it did, they started leaning extra hard on those newer tropes, and that’s what really fucked it up.
^ That scene actually worked for me. It was similar to the standard kind of petty evil we’d expect from that character, but it was done is such a flirtatious way that I couldn’t help but to find it charming. Also, there were no real bad intentions- as compared to, say, season 1 or 2 where Betty pushed her friend to cheat on her husband so that she (Betty) would feel better about her own marriage.
I think I feel the same about this premier as I did season 5. I wasn’t 100% sold on S5 by the first episode. It was good, but it had it’s shortcomings. However, it lead in to probably my favorite season as a whole.
However, there was a lot in there I liked. Also, let’s be honest, even a weak episode of Mad Men is still leaps and bounds ahead of 98% of television.
Good ep. I watched it just now, so it hasn’t all sunk in yet. I’ll probably have more to talk about later, but there was a lot of death imagery. Unsubtle death imagery, compared to the much tamer death imagery of the last season premiere. Given Mad Men’s history, I can only assume that, unlike last time, this time doesn’t actually portend death, except maybe in a metaphorical sense.
It’s meant to color our logic, going into this story arc. It’s certainly coloring Don’s.
That came across to me as an insinuation being made in a playful enough way to avoid sounding accusatory–a reminder that she’s noticed something, or at least thinks she has. That’s Betty Hofstadter/Draper/Francis in a nutshell. Passive-aggressive, a little bit unhinged, and enough of a mockery of feminine subservience that people tend to tolerate her.
That the “fantasy” sounds so freakish now might have something to do with the deadpan portrayal of '60s gender norms, wherein it was considered tough love for Sean Connery to bitchslap the Bond girl of the week and then forcibly kiss her to straighten her out. Compared to the times we live in now, those times were a fair bit more rapey.
Roger smiling during Don’s “promotion” of the Jaguar dude’s idea was what made the ep for me.
I’m soooo glad to see Pete finally get exposed as the complete scumbag he is. Allison Brie is pretty much the perfect housewife, even respectfully dismissing the cheat bait from those husbands. Considering how far removed and often damaged the other spouses have been, she’s one of the the few women on the show that’s actually wifey material.
Oh yeah, and even with his sordid childhood being used as a rationale, Don’s an absolute scumbag. His rationalizations are just amazingly flawed and selfish it’s almost painful to watch his constant moral failings. The only slightly redeemable factors are when he’s “Business Don” and brings on the wit and confidence.
I do admit was amused by Don “Juan” Draper’s magic over Lindsey Weir in the restaurant scene. Reminded me of when he fingered that other chick…
Peggy Draper is another disappointment. In a way to make her own mark she’s sacrificed the pathos factor that made me identify with her, which is why she was my favorite character from Season 1-3. Her character is now poised for infidelity and other “Don-isms”, based on selfish reason for fulfillment. Now all the central characters are just depressingly empty and bitter- oftentimes for no damn reason.
I dunno, it just seems as if because they’ve explored Don’s life so much, the writers wrote themselves into an impasse and now seek character regression as a form of entertainment. I don’t mind Don cheating insomuch as the sheer recklessness and disregard for a spouse who is the doting/ caring antithesis of Betty Draper.
The might as well just rename the show this season “Cheating Men”
Don destroyed that broad and got those panties moist and wanting lol, shit was EPIC lol! Trudy destroyed Pete in the kitchen scene, she was cool with the cheating but the dumbass was shitting where he eats, idiot.
Moral of the story: Don will never be happy with what he has. There are numerous younger characters on the show who are also unhappy with what they have… and they are becoming Don.
Whiny Pussy Men, it’s starting to become boring and predictable. “I have everything, but I want more because I am a dickhead” It’s also like every characters dumbass switch got turned on.
The first 3 episodes have been really meh, what happened after last years amazing season?
AND NO TS, SIMPSONS SEASON 8 IS THE BEST SEASON OF TELEVISION. IT WAS THE PEAK OF EVERYTHING GREAT ABOUT THE SIMPSONS.