The obvious tie-in name option is “Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3”
I’d argue hes already complete. ambiguous mixups/crossups comboable high damage supers, an otg. Hes not top tier but very very playable. Disregarding all that, with all your buffs do you really think he would beat out wolv, pheonix, she hulk etc?
Funny, I’d like to beat Dante’s pansy ass with Goofy.
No Chip shield would help against Pheonix, fly mode would allow for anti chip tactics better spacing + even longer combos + more ambiguous crossups, super armor would give him a Hulk smash think twice style, and invisible force blast would help him control even MORE space. (Blast or command grab?)
My answer is yes, yes I do. She-Hulk in my opinion while good is not in the same league as Pheonix and Wolverine. She’s very blockable while the others
are not.
Do something about those Tenderizer inputs and he instantly becomes much more playable.
here is my fuel for the fire… i thought there was an announcement supposed to happen on the 30th ? tomorrow…
marvel hates ultimate anything look what they did to that poor verse
He doesn’t need longer combos, given the right assist he has quite a few touch of death combos, check the front page, a video just got posted (http://shoryuken.com/2011/06/29/mvc3-super-skrull-combos-and-resets/) and obviously no chip shield would help against pheonix. Thats why you save x-factor… You aren’t defending why he needs stuff just saying " THAT WOULD BE SO COOOOOOLLLLL!" I get it all of these would help him. Lots of things can help lots of characters. I promise, if you spend enough time with the skrull, you will find ways around crying for a buff…
a no chip sheild is just asking to be thrown
The thing is, not every character in Blazblue can win. Tager for instance, Tsubaki pre-CS2 (even though I had a 89% win rate with her on my alternate PSN account :P) etc etc. The problem with fighting game companies is that they don’t seem to know how to have a decent sized cast where the strength differences are so marginal that it really only comes down to mind games, execution, etc. There will always be a ‘top tier’ list, that is unpreventable unless you got 10 characters who all have the same move set, hit box, damage ratios (IE: 10 Ryu’s.).
MvC3 still has characters that some of the ‘pro’ players have started to recognize as being good. Dormammu, Taskmaster, Spider man (I’ve been using Dorm and Taskmaster since day one, and knew how silly they are.). Super Skrull is one. MvC3 has vastly more viable characters, the problem is with characters like Wolverine, Wesker, Akuma, She-Hulk, Phoenix, who require very little effort in execution to achieve greatness with versus characters like Skrull, Taskmaster, Spider Man (This character is craaaaaaazy execution heavy) Dante, etc why play any of these other characters and risk it?
My favorite teams as of right now is Skrull/Hulk/Doom, Dormammu/Taskmaster(or Ryu)/Wesker, and then Cap/Doom/Wesker. To be honest I rarely even have to use wesker on a serious level, but he is vastly easier to play than Skrull, Taskmaster, and even Doom.
My big problem with MvC3 is that risk versus reward factor isn’t as rewarding for execution heavy characters, versus lolwolverine.
Also, let’s go back to characters we want to see. I WANT THANOS FOR TEAM VILLAINS. I also wouldn’t mind seeing Wiccan, or Hulking from young avengers. They are obscure enough that many people don’t really know them, yet their powers seem to fit well in a fighting game.
Mash less. Tenderizer becomes a thing of the past then.
There’s more to please than tourny players. In fact they make up a small portion of potential buyers, so having 40 characters that aren’t viable will give your game a bad rap - just as MvC2 has. Pleasing some small portion of your consumer base is not wise, or even interesting. What makes high tier MvC2 special is the fact that it’s so inclusive and hardcore. If more people could just up and play it that way, I promise it wouldn’t have the respect it has now; case and point MvC3 being more wide accepted despite critical analysis in a few forums.
In a game this fast simple string sometimes get picked up as “mashing”.
Doesn’t really matter to me though, I don’t use Skrull and never really have, lol.
I do, I’m a patient player though. Tager and Tsubaki were my mains in Blazblue CS, and Litchi was my main in CT.
The other portion of the consumer base wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between a crappy Naruto character and a tournament BB character. It’s inclusive and hardcore for a reason. There’s more to please than tourney players, yet you think everyone cares about tier lists and posts on forums.
For some reason I feel like Thanos would fit well in this game.
But Capcom would need another big guy on their team. I’m thinking Gunrock.
He could have his rock form activate almost like Mecha Gief.
You see… it’s more complicated than being either “hardcore or not knowing the difference between bad characters and good characters”. There’s a portion of players, I will confidently say the majority of buyers, who recognize the difference quite clearly - but are not quite as forgiving about having 3/5ths of a roster be useless. Midcore, upper-casual, low hardies, normal; whatever you wanna call them, they’re certainly not hardcore nor are they idiots.
You can argue that they should appreciate high tier characters, against their own preferences, but I think people rather have whichever character they choose not be a total waste. Your competitive spirit should not be evident in which character you pick, but by the time and effort you put into a character to unlock their legit high-end potential. I was once accused of not taking MvC2 serious simply by picking Venom/Jill/Cammy, that is fucked up.
This isn’t an argument against high tiers, they’ll manifest no matter what. But when balance spikes, when it’s hilariously disproportionate, it must be rectified. You can call the few viable characters ‘the real game’, you can *think *anybody not-hardcore must be too silly to know the difference between strong and weak characters, but these beliefs don’t serve the majority. Actually they’re more in the vein of accepting a certain par of game development, which we don’t actually have to do anymore.
Emma Frost.
I don’t care what Marvel or Capcom does, whether she’ll be DLC or part of and upgrade.
Make it happen.
Not caring about tier lists or playing competitively doesn’t make you an idiot. Caring about tier lists without contextualing them makes you an idiot. Thinking that these psuedo competitive players are the majority, you’ve never actually come in to contact with a genuine casual player, have you? I wish they were the majority. Maybe we’d get fighting games with good netcode then.
Is that your honest assessment, that I’ve never played a… ahem genuine casual player? lol