Lol fair enough… but… the reason why i mentioned mvc2 in the first place is b/c the damage possibilities are basically just as high. perhaps the opp doesn’t mind when someone he knows is better than him can 100% him. it’s the 1 handed autistic children doing 100%'s that really seem to be the issue.
I’ll give it a night, its mad close to being shut down though.
Check again. It’s a private forum, it’s always been a private forum too.
I never understood this mentality though, killing you off a random jab is fine as long as I spent an hour in the training room making sure I could land it properly rather than half an hour?
Seems all that raising the execution barrier ( at least, when done artificially and purely to make guitar hero players feel better about themselves when they pick up a fighting game ), in that fashion only manages to accomplish is to make things less consistent, with consistency inherently meaning more “randomness” and with “randomness” supposedly being the worst possible thing to have in a fighting game.
You should ask yourself why this allegedly significantly inferior player keeps putting yourself in that position to begin with. There’s a huge part of the game that exists outside what happens after someone hitconfirms.
please stop comparing MvC3 to MvC2. they are two very different games that dont play anything alike, aside from being 3v3 combat
The only time I ever feel the need to complain about the damage for rather low execution in umvc3 is probably with wesker given the tools he has. For some reason, I feel like his damage got a significant increase ._.
Pretty much.I am reminded more of MvC1 than 2.And the stupid shit in this game is more akin to Xmen’s than MvC2’s bullshit as well.
Fair enough and true enough in a sense… but I feel like BOTH aspects should be well represented in a good fighting game.
I doubt it. His problem is that the game doesn’t have enough “strategy”, because it’s too “random”. Strategy is pretty much the opposite of execution (Which is muscle memory from tons of practice, as well as reflexes in some cases).
I think both are necessary for a fun fighter. The problem is, we often disagree what level of execution is necessary, or what kind of execution is more necessary.
You really can’t school me on mvc2 i lived and breathed that game for a decade, I’m just point out stupid simple things that can kill or seriously hurt a character…aka tron bonne assist. lol
Are these same god tier player “suck” at marvel 3 and or drop combo’s all day, I just finished watching yipes MR god tier execution himself drop dante combo’s in 1st to 5 like it was spare change, and its not only because it was ultimate he’s been doing it in vanilla. Going from a game with so call harder execution that took more technical skill to a game with a so call easier execution barrier you’d think that the god like execution skill would default over right? But from the sound of it those who are good and mvc3 can’t cut it in part 2 ( or so you say we have little to no proof) and those that where machines in mvc2 outside of a few still drop BnB combo’s monthly. ( which we do have proof of happening consistently)
And mvc2 came out with a legacy behind it, its a classic that added online play. EVERYONE bought it and dropped it like they do every dlc game that comes out with multi player added. Its hot for a month or so then you can’t find a game online to play.
Making most combos harder would result in a large player base loss I’m sure. Just today, I was trying to teach my friend how to do the buktooth loop with doom. It was like teaching a fish how to run. I’m pretty happy with umvc3. There are still execution characters in the game if you desire so. Most of the characters who do a lot of damage with really basic combos are mostly bad anyway in umvc3 minus wesker.
Bingo. Loss of player base = less people buying the game. less people buying the game = less money for crapcom.
This is basically a formula that will lead us to NEVER see games the caliber of marvel 2, third strike, ST, CvS2… Newer games just are not as hype b/c they aren’t geared toward the players that make these matches hype. They are geared to the 11 year olds who make up most of their customer base. That’s just how it is… how it will be… and to me… it’s sad.
But i think the opp is now gone at the point and we are pretty off topic on a crappy topic to begin with… so I’m done here.
At least you have two more char after your first gets gibbed. Yea he may have been important for your team comp. Its still not that big of a deal compared to other high dmging 1v1 games when you realize your bitchin about the 33%.
Block. No block, no fun. Or don’t play. This thread is long for no reason at all
i’m already finding matches going to time quite a bit more than they did in Vanilla. i’d say things have already been pretty heavily slowed down.
Marvel 1 and 2 also started you off with meter. You gonna say those are casual as well?
I have to admit the game gets boring and annoying when u make a bad move and spend the next half minute watching somebody body you, launch u, knock u back down, OTG, then combo some more until you die, all with like 1 bar of meter or less
I understand the notion of one fuck up you are dead of marvel, I just think that x-factor pushes the line too much.
Pretty sure the OP has bailed due to the logic tsunami that crushed his poorly thought out and ill-fated topic.
We got plenty of new 1,000,0000 characters too though. Health might be a little lower average wise…but damage is lowered overall as well = It at least being the same as MVC3 or better length wise. But true, sometimes I don’t even get my game started and I’d loose a character in Vanilla, bamn, char wasted but its better now.
[details=Spoiler]Also MVC3 isn’t all consistent and all skill, even some respected players agree. Howmany times had Combofiend destroyed everybody then was nowhere to be seen the next tournament? Im not saying there aren’t mostly certain players in the top 8 cause that isn’t true (Justin…Combo…Etc) but with Phoenix etc, results coulda been hella random, at least WITHIN the top 8-16 placements. Combo, could have easily taken the win at EVO for example, Viscant said he had never beaten him before. He also said that Dios x could beat him, and he wasn’t even in the top 32 IIRC. When have you seen Daigo not be in a top 32 at a major? Same happens with every fighter tho but LESS. Lets see some Phoenix players still placing top lol.[/details] <- Kind a off topic reply the MVC3 consistant thing
no. i have other things to do besides hang here all day. look above and you’ll see i mention the ease of high damage when someone asked me to describe random.