If the game is so scrubby, why are the top 10 consistently the same players?
Thought so.
Ugh, you do realize in Guilty Gear the same fucking thing could happen if you were playing Chip, dropped something and got punished by Potemkin right? Honestly you’re going to get mad because YOU dropped the combo? That’s not the game’s fault it’s yours. It’s also not the game’s fault you picked a character with 750 health, who can be one touched by more than half the cast, especially by Hulk who has some of the highest damage output in the game. I mean we all drop combos, but sometimes its a matter of judgement. I’d rather go for a combo that won’t leave me at a big disadvantage if I drop it, that can at least setup oki, or reset. Sometimes you have to plan for these things.
Yeah, but ridiculously high damage doesn’t really make the game “random” or “boring.” Actually, “boring” is arguable and would vary from person to person, but certainly not random. Ridiculous, yeah. Stupid, yeah. Boring, no.
Why are you coming off so hostile dude?, relax. No one is mad here.
I don’t see why Tager isn’t anything to aspire to for balance. High tier/low tier or whatever, I sincerealy believe that Huge characters should get (if at all) a MINOR damage increase and huge control of the screen with nice reset options, where the character can still take some punishment, but has to play somewhat smart as well.
Even besides the point of Hulk+ Strider, the same shit happens with an assload of characters and especially in Marvel, where the differences in damage output are thoroughly noticed. Jill, Chun, Laura, Arthur, etc. all have to play there stuff on Huge point, while Dorm, Wesker, Hulk, etc. Can fool around and take punishment while preform TOD’s on a nice precentage of the cast in UMVC3. Hulk can still do huge damage with gamma tsunami combos, and Wesker can F’yo shit up. Especially since now with Hulk’s superarmor on his special (gamma charge I believe?), even WHILE safe, he’s going to go back to applying that brainless pressure.
Eh, just my two cents.
Edit: It makes it if anything, anti-climatic and random. Such as in my situation, for the dominant part of the game, I was playing smarter (except by messing the combo up at the end) and using “higher level tactics”. The fact that he was able to just roll out, and casually preform Hulk’s normal Online BS combo makes it anticlimactic and of course random for me at least. Strider wasn’t at half health, or near dead, he was at about (i would say) 90% HP. Boring, is subjective and differs from person to person, which i agree with
And I think I’ve played GG Reload like Once in my entire life, so I don’t have the experience to really comment on that. I should REALLY get back in it or smething
Umm, how was you playing smarter by RUSHING a Hulk? That is not smart at ALL. Way to beat Hulk: Lame lame lame.
Not kidding. I do my best to stay away from Hulk and try to take him out via laming. Which strider should be able to do.
The funny part is that Hsien-Ko’s items aren’t random. If I recall correctly, they are based on the amount of time that has elapsed since you last threw an item.
Yup that’s how the infinite works.
If only PW worked the same way.
My team can’t Zone at all. Strider can a bit, but For some reason, The Format B+ Gram L or Ame (forget which one it is) dropped on him and I lost.
it is a bad thing when the game is made easier for casuals who drop the game and move onto the next shiny thing and the hardcores are left with a game that they dont like so in the end no one is happy (aside from the game company who made dat $$$)
Phew, good thing that isnt happening with this game, since we clearly have a defined meta-game, a solid player base and really good, well known top players competing in weeklies as well as big tournaments.
Oh sorry, was this the “MvC3 sucks” circlejerk? Shit.
This post. This post. I’m no grammar nazi, not going there.
just the sheer amount of ignorance is astounding. it feels like im ramming my head into something.
"and I though I would try umvc3 out just to see how bad/scrubby the game still was"
opinion. and how the fuck is a game scrubby. Do i call a surgery a noob too? It’s the person thats called a “scrub” even that fucking term needs to be shunned from a community as its as down putting as it gets. Do you call someone who is in the earlier stages of school a retard because they just started?
"Doing long as dial a combo type shit, semi infinite from the looks of it(shit don’t know I dont play the game)"
i lol’d at least. i mean if i were ignorant to what a duck was and called it a moose, i’d be correct right?
“So, I got on and played these hardcore umvc3 heads, I won some and I lost some but the scores I had vs each person I played was like 10+ and up.”
**what is that supposed to mean? you got 10 more wins than people who play at tournaments? yup and i work at capcom. no I made the game. you can tell because i said so online and its bold. Did i mention i played mvc2? And how did you play hardcore Umvc heads when the game came out a little over a week ago. **
"I didn’t need no so called advance combos, semi infinite, long as dial a combo,combovideos, nothing… I did was a,b,c knock them to the ground,super. Shit did like 50%. meter build fast in umvc3"
this shit is why everyone else ignored your post.
in fact this is when im just going to post it and stop because there is no way to debate with you why you had this one sided epiphany and attempted to post some incoherent babble as… i don;t even get the relation to this thread man. just really. wow.
OP. You’re looking at it the wrong way.
Sure. I’m getting my ass whupped. But screw up ONCE and I’m turning the tables on your ass.
If anything. Low health is good since:
A) forces you to have good defense.
B) forces you to adapt or die.
C) gives you a legitimate chance to at least attempt a comeback. Especially with X-Factor involved.
D) rewards you for having execution and team synergy to maximize damage when you get your openings.
This thread is very entertaining.
Because he’s not only a nonviable choice, he’s polarizing as hell, no pun intended I swear.
Also Reloaded is my least favorite itteration of guilty gear, can’t recco that one too much.
Why the fuck do people get hardcore for a game they don’t like?
The fighting game community would be a better place if people repped their favorite games in real life as much as they did on the web.
But hardcore players DO like it. For real. I mean, they acknowledge that there’s tons of retarded shit in this game (Who wouldn’t?), but many actually like the game.
I get where people who hate Marvel 3 are coming from, it just bugs me when they claim that, apparently, no one likes the game because of its flaws. The truth is that people still enjoy the game DESPITE its flaws.
Essay forthcoming,
I’ve had a lot of my mind on marvel today, so I feel this is the more appropriate thread. Overall, UMVC3 is a bit of a disappointment to me -at this moment-
**Regarding “low health”=pacing, this makes the game anti climatic
!**It makes it more energy-driven if anything, far from anti climatic. I just think that is a poor choice of wording.
Boring
Most definitely.
(energy driven, yet boring? whut)
Yes, I did just accuse UMVC3 of taking a step back in terms of overall fun. Oh shit.
There are some of you who apparently can’t remove your oral fixation on Capcom’s junk when it comes to taking criticism from anyone who isn’t interested in making this their 1,000 hour investment for the next decade. Elitism, “this game was made just for me and tournaments”, etc, please stop being so thin skinned and learn to take some damn criticism.
You usually have no problem giving it, right?
Some common posts/online issues globally, even in this thread,
I was doing well, but one mistake cost me the entire match was thrown off by one lucky hitthis claim is usually counter-argued with*“that’s cause you (fill in the following with any negative scrub comment/lrn2play)”*
or
"GOD THATS WHAT THIS GAME IS ALL ABOUT MAN, THAT ONE MISTAKE BRO, THATS WHAT I LIVE FOR UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ERECTION CANT CONTROL IT"
I always get tired in fighting game communities that criticism of the game’s flaws=cannibalize your own community.
Now that I’m done attacking the defense force, let me address what I think the issue of UMVC3 is.
**We think UMVC3 is…"balanced/not balanced/intended not to be balancedthatsthepointscrub/too noob friendly/tournament ready…something like that
**
Its a case of mistaken identity. UMVC3 doesn’t know what player base it wants to cater to, or how much of it should go with what. MVC3 tried a weird harmony, but this has been taken to further extremes in Ultimate.
Memorize combos, desk videos, assist-chains, meterless combos, footsies, zoning, xfc, eat-sleep-play-MVC3?
MVC2 renaissance.
Spam the shit out of the most basic concepts and ride the high damage/low health wave?
Initiate protocol 10, “proceed to teabag the fuck out of everything” also known as the "~umad"
Be the middle guy?
Muahaha,HAHAHA…haha. Oh wait he’s serious/let me laugh harder.
I know the response to some of UMVC3s decision was that (gasp) this “fighting game renaissance” isn’t just a byproduct of the fighting game community, but rather its attempt to branch out and satiate both newcomers and series fanatics.
MVC3 was an interesting attempt at this “cater to both audiences” thing, but UMVC3 just feels to have taken both to extremes in the way it subtly handles new game mechanics. truth be told I want to be salty about this. Complain that its because my ratio’s dropped into favoring losses over wins, but its just total apathy.
Again, I’m not saying I’m hanging in the towel or I hate UMVC3. I’m still very much having fun with the locals and enjoying/raging over online modes, but so far UMVC3 is (just like AE) feeling like a step back with the constant struggle of the term “Balance” and less on what actually makes the game enjoyable.
Maybe a less emphasis on balance, more on longevity of a match? Different methods of combos? Some new system element that distinguished it from vanilla?
Again, I am aware what a “fighting game” update is, but Ultimate definitely had more potential be something greater than that.
I’m actually very much looking forward to heroes and heralds mode now.
Im talking about games in general, not just MvC3. I’m aware people have grown to like MvC3
No.