The analog button I believe is more commonly used for adventure games that default the analog stick to move. In those cases you might have to hit the analog button to turn off the analog sticks before the d-pad will be read for motion. I dont know the names of any games exactly since I have very few PS and PS2 games.
When using most adaptors for PS/PS2–>PS3, you often have to hit the analog button on the controller before the PS3 recognizes the controller. However with the Pelican converter you do not need to hit the analog button.
I dont really understand your second question but maybe if I explain how you hook up the stick to a controller it will help. Joysticks have four microswitches on them, each of which gets hooked up to one of the directions on the controller you are hacking. Therefore if the d-pad doesnt work for a game, then your joystick wont work for a game. As far as I know, there are no joysticks which can be hacked in to the analog sticks on a controller. I could be wrong on this and there may be a way to do it with resistors, but you would have to ask someone else about that because its above me.
I think it also turns analog mode on, but as far as I know, thats only for PS1 games that came out around the time of, or before, the analog sticks were added to the PS1 controller. But you wouldnt need it at all in that case since the d-pad will automatically work.
No one on SRK likes X-arcade, I have never heard anyone say anything good about them. Happs are what every American arcade you’ve ever played SF2 on use. There are different kinds of happs though, marvel players ALL prefer 360s from what I’ve seen, which are optical sticks so they don’t have a microswitch.
If I’m using happs I prefer a regular competition stick, or even a Happ super. But I prefer sanwas over everything.
im curious about the feel of the sticks japanese has square gates xarcade has round one ( i find diagonals hard to hit) spring on xarcade feels odd to me used to sanwa and hori(i prefer the looser hori sticks)
now wat are happ sticks like square or round, hard or loose, sensitive or not so sensitive
To re-address your question: on a PS1/PS2 stick, while using it on the PS3 with the Pelican adapter, the Analog button serves as the Home button. You can’t use it to turn on your PS3 but you can use it to change players and turn it off and whatever else.
On a PS2 MAS Super Pro.Stick, there is a way to have your joystick act as the left or right analog stick instead of just the d-pad. The analog button is used to trigger this. This isn’t anything you’d ever want for a fighting game though.
I’ve read a post or two around here where someone calls the Xbox 360’s Guide button an Analog button. Plenty of Xbox 360 customs (and all of the commercial ones) include a Guide button on them.
Aside from those things, I can only think of one other reason… I’m using it as a poor excuse to sloppily mount an LED in the stick I’m building!
It has been awhile since I have last visited SRK. Actually I was quite relieved to find the forums going into so much detail regarding such topics. As you might imagine, the recent turn of events within the Capcom basecamp and the news of them planning to answer fighters’ wishes with another StreetFighter installment, brought me back here wondering (I am about as old-school a StreetFighter fanatic as they come, since '87) what exactly is the popular opinion on the new “be-all” regarding arcade fighting sticks? At last check, which for me would be around 1999-2000, was MAS. Of which, I am still the proud owner of and utilize quite heavily. Having only ever to replace the stick twice. However, like any other hardware over time, is really beginning to show signs of it’s age. And I suspect it’s PCB faltering to a degree.
I browsed many of the other threads about this and they seem to me, to mostly concentrate on those that are “custom” built models. Names, which I have never before heard of. Izzy is thinking that it is time to replace my tried and true MAS, yet in visiting the MASSYSTEMS website, I see that it really has not had much updating since I ordered my first one those years ago. Those threads I had seen, showed me much in the way of available choices, however, not very many opinions. Specifically not regarding MAS at any rate.
Am thinking that I would definitely like another MAS. This time around, equipped with a perfect 360 stick and PSX1,2 and X-Box compatibility. Izzy already has the necessary PSX3 and Gamecube/Wii adapters. Just truly looking for a few educated opinions before shelling-out another $150-$200 for a new fighter stick. :wonder:
fix your MAS up. whatever it is that shows signs of age can be fixed, no matter what it is. the PCB can be replaced, the stick can be lubed or individual parts can be switched out for new ones, and the art can be changed. it won’t be too hard or costly to get it to tip-top shape, i’m sure.
don’t get another MAS. you’re probably better off ordering from a stick builder who does Happ parts or getting the SFAC stick and modding it or something. both options are cheaper and you can customize the look.
I am just wondering, what’s so great about MAS? Were they just big back in the day?
Also I have a contribution. Don’t ever get the crappy low-end Pelican stick that you see everywhere, the one that has plugs for 9 systems on it. I actually bought this to play Raiden II. The stick screws into the base and they use really weak-ass soft metal. I stripped the threads on it in like 2 weeks of normal use. Now it’s totally useless. Also the base is all curved which just adds insult to injury. What a PIECE OF $HIT.:tdown:
MAS is basically the highest quality non-custom American-style stick. Basically think of it as an American HRAP, only without the shitty Hori buttons that must be swapped out.
I currently own two Agetec arcade sticks for the Dreamcast. If you could afford or purchase something more “real” (i.e. Hori, MAS…), I would jump on it and not even bother with these devices. I find them rather “clunky”, small and not very durable overall. Depending upon how rigorous you are during gameplay, you would most likely have the switches inside ground to dust within a week.
I’ve been searching around for a good stick for shmups for my MAME’d PC but it’s hard to find the right balance of quality and price. What would you guys recommend for a starting stick used mostly for shmups? I’m willing to upgrade it later on as my needs/tastes develop, but for now I’m just looking for a reliable piece for my computer.
