Light-up on activation button mod tutorial

I appreaciate you patience and the time you dedicate to me and I swear to God that I’ve done what you said step by step, even twice and using new wires everytime but it doesn’t work. T_T

I’m trying just with 1p, nothing else connected and without soldering, could be this a problem? I don’t to wire up everything and then find out that it’s all messed up. T_T

I post a picture of my private hell so that you can see if there’s something wrong.

Red = 1P - Button Microswitch
Blue =Jab_in - 1P
Grey = GND - Button Microswitch
Violet = VCC MC - VCC FG
White = GND MC - GND MC
Green = GND KNSert - GND MC
Brown = VCC KNsert - JAB_OUT

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I just completed a dualmodded stick complete with LED mods using Toodle’s FWidget and the Knserts. Everything is working perfectly but for some reason I cannot seem to turn off the lights (to tournament mode) I can go into setup while holding Jab etc. But when I try disabling to tournament (by pressing all 3 kick buttons) nothing happens. Can anyone shed any light on this?

You’ll find me a lot more helpful when you stop spamming my inbox with cut’n’pastes of whats already in the threads I read. You don’t need a second opinion when you get responses; if more needs to be added or corrected from someone who answers you faster than me, I will.

Go into the menu via the Jab button, and test out all three of the kick buttons; make sure Short turns the brightness down, Forward changes the display mode, and Roundhouse toggles the invert. This is just meant to verify that all three of those kicks are wired correctly to the LED controller. Once that’s verified, make sure the screen saver option is on, and save the settings with Fierce. Wait, to make sure the screen saver comes on and does the rotation in the correct order, clockwise. That’ll verify the no buttons are shown as always pressed, because if they are, then the screensaver wont kick in. (The check for tournament mode is pretty specific; three kicks and nothing else)
After that, remember the buttons have to be held when plugged in. If you dont find anything odd from these then I’ll need a bunch more information about what all its wired with an how; theres a chance one of the boards could pull one of the inputs low when plugged in, making the LED controller think a button is pressed.

I’m sorry but I’m getting crazy.I’m writing directly to you because I’m afraid that I could be ignored so I feel more secure by sending a direct question to someone. I wouldn’t bother you so much If I wasn’t so desperate. I apologize and I hope you can forgive me.

Anyway I’ve perfectly followed the helpfull BlindWithOneArm response but It still doesn’t work. So I posted up a second message (check my previous post) with even an Image to make it more clear to you all. I’m still looking for an enlightment. Thanks T_T!

If definitely looks like you have the wiring idea down properly. I think you may be expecting it to immediately do light on press, which it may not. But first things first: is that surface they’re resting on conductive metal?

How long should I wait before they light up on press?

Anyway the surface is actually a kind of protective rubber. Could it be a problem?

If it was conductive, yeah, it could be a problem.
The modes the LED controller use are saved in the EEPROM, and especially when setup for the first time, may be at best undefined. Take two small pieces of wire, and connect the STR_IN to FIE_IN, and JAB_IN to STR_IN. This should connect your button to the three punch _IN points. Unplug the USB cable from the 'thulhu, press and hold the microswitch with one hand, and plug the USB cable back into the Cthulhu. That should tell the LED controller that all three punches are held, so it should reset all of the settings. You may see the LED light up at the point, if so, you’re good to go, you’ve got your proof of life, and you should do the installation. If not, grab a non conductive surface like a wood or plastic cutting board, put it underneath everything, and try again. If still no light, swap out the KNsert; with you connecting it directly to VCC and GND earlier, you could have fried it because there was no current limiting resistor.

Ok. I’m about to try it out. I’ll let you know. Sorry for bothering you again. Thanks.

No, It doesn’t work. I guess I’m a failure. I’ve even tried on every kind of surface I’ve got in my house. Damn…that means I won’t use my FGWidget…sigh. Still looking, even if without hopes, for a solution. Half-solutions are welcome too!

We aint done. Get comfortable with chip pin numbers. In short, pin count starts at the notch and goes around counter clockwise. If you need a refresher, check the Cthulhu troubleshooting guide linked in the first post. Also read the parts about using a meter to test resistance and voltage.
Grab a multimeter, and test the voltage on pin 7 of the chip. Make sure it’s >3 volts.
Test the voltage on the JAB_IN point, and write down the voltage both when pressed and not pressed. Remove the wire from the 1P screw terminal, and repeat the same test.
Post up what you find.

At the moment I don’t have the multimeter to test the volts, I’ll grab one tomorrow.

But I’ve got the feeling that I’ve missed the solution and I show you why. I’m doing different dumb-tests and as result I’ve got this:

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I’ve connected the KNsert VCC to STR_OUT instead of JAB_OUT and I don’t remember how I’ve managed even to make the button reach on push but the light was weak and the MC hasn’t recognized the 1P input(checked on the MC proprieties through Windows).

Does this mean something to you? :confused:

that looks like its on screensaver. Cylon mode

Curious. Should I try to wire up Jab, Str and Fie and try to reset or it’s useless? Any suggestion is more than appreciate xD

No, you have proof that the chip is working properly. Fully wire it up in a full install.

Thanks Toodles, managed to get tournament mode working now:) thnx

Is there a way to test if a pin works properly? I’m sure that JAB_IN has something wrong.

When its fully installed, sure.

theres not much to it really… if you have a feeling something is wrong then re-solder but as for the board you cant do much to make it not work properly.

Even if the buttons are inverted I don’t mind, but what about JAB_IN? I’ve done the wiring properly! I swear QQ

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No, you haven’t, not at all. It looks like SHO_IN and SHO_OUT are correct, but you need to swap FOR_OUT with STR_OUT and FIE_OUT with ROU_OUT, and recheck your wiring of the LED attached to JAB_OUT. Since the JAB_OUT LED isn’t working at all during the screensaver and you didn’t hold it down for the menu, there’s no reason to believe anything good or bad about JAB_IN.