You don’t need to use Wesker for that combo, any OTG assist will work. Viper for instance… to use assists as combo extension later in the combo, as far as I can tell you need to use a wall or ground bounce. I dunno which assist to use though… Strider has a good wallbounce assist that hits 3/4s of the screen with a disembodied hitbox so you could still use it outside of combos.
If the combo is too long, they will actually pop out of Strange’s Eye of Agamotto before all 10 hits of the fireball even land. It’ll take some getting used to the new hitstun rules on assists… you need to hit someone pretty much the next frame after your assist is done, unlike before where you could just sit around and use the soft knockdowns and whatnot to make your combos easy
hahaha I know how you feel especially w/doom. I set out to find new people to work with also and I love Nova/Hawkeye with X23 (I need to start using X23 first tho)
Two assist midscreen, 1 assist corner. She’s a point character. If you have her in slot two, you’re wasting a slot. If you have her in slot 3… Well, let’s not get into that.
I didn’t say I was going to reveal all my stuff, there’s no reason for me to go into detail about what I do. /ECego
All I’m saying is that she’s doing a decent amount, but not as much as before.
lol Laura works as both point and a 2nd character, her Ankle slice assist is really useful for a good amount of characters to extend their combos/abilities, eg: with her 2nd you can Combo into Gamma Crush with Hulk Mid-screen, or you can have a free unblockable with Ghost Rider’s J.S+ ankle slicer, she also makes Dante’s airdash> Hammer+ her assist approach hella lulzy,
plus her level 2 XF is REALLY good (pretty much as good as her XF3) and she can relaunch on her own when activated to kill pretty much any charcter for 1 meter max.
The only reason that i have her first is coz I’ve always had her on point since I started playing the game, just feels weird with her in the back now, plus you cant really safe DHC into her, its rather pointless in a game like this where if the point is touched theyll die but still… its nice to have the option >.>
I agree on her being a shitty anchor though… not really much she can do on her own even with XF3, plus you’ll be leaving the second character pretty much assist-less…
lols. you won’t even give away your combos? mixups okay maybe I can understand not giving those away. but a combo? good god. I thought we were ten years past this usenet keep your shit secret bullshit, especially since you are talking up a 800k two assist combo… when mine can do 800k with a jump in, only needs one assist and works anywhere on the screen with no adjustments and is a perfect coast to coast corner carry
X-23 works on point or as a second. imo she’s way better as a second.
comparing apples to apples, one bar. zero, one or two assists, she does way more damage in Ultimate. DHC glitch =/= x-23 damage. DHC glitch damage = team damage
Combos give away potential. No need to further the character on your end, that doesn’t help me. Getting in and staying in is important. As for her being second, that’s just a bad idea. When she comes in, she has terrible options. CS doesn’t have invincibility, talon is easily baited, no double jump, no air supers. The opponent is a huge advantage when she comes in.
Also, once she’s pushed out, or camped on her entry, she has a really hard time getting back in against top players. I can’t tell you how many times Zucco has used Taskmaster, and I couldn’t get anywhere near him. The new Mirage fient xfc helps, but if you miss the overhead, or it’s read, you’re gonna die.
She is all in all a point character. The only person who ever truly had success with 2nd slot Laura is 10stars, and his x23 did less work than his tron most of the time. You have no tournament evidence to back your claims up, and are going off of mid level theory crafting.
She can instant overhead some characters with j.M, too. She isn’t really a high-low mixup character. She has Mirage Feint M, TK M Talon Attack and Neck Slice to keep yourself close to the opponent when pushblocked, but above all, she can MFC her attacks and dash right back in to stay close. When you are close, you’ll want to go for instant jumping down+H crossups or frametraps from her great frame advantage plus really fast normal startup. You can also do M or L Talon Attack in the neutral game, but since you’ll get killed if you miss them, it’s better to always call an assist to cover you or your landing. Oh, and don’t forget she has an awesome wall jump and of course, really good ground dashes to pick and choose your spacing.
But speaking of MF H, the possibilities off of that are immense. After all, her jumping M is really really fast, meaning you can pretend to do an empty MF but end up hitting them with an overhead on their shins.
Sounds like a perfect answer, thank you, still needa teach myself how to MFC and all, basically I never got far past learning how to get her feint loops consistently, that’s about when i quit mvc3…so i guess i’ve got some catching up to do.
Left right mix ups own overheads. If you’re doing overheads with X-23 you’re playing the wrong character. Left rights are better in MVC3.
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The second mix up I show later in the video (around 3 minutes) they have to stand guard or guess air throw you to beat without using XF guard cancel. Which sets them up for lows any way. It’s basically an overhead mix up without actually hitting them overhead. If you feel they’re going to jump out or try air throw, wait for them to air throw and then punish their whiffed air normal.
what man we X23 players must stick together tourney or not we just want to see the character fuck shit up and people start realizing how good she is. Everybody in here has helped me in a big way and I appreciate every bit of info I can learn so I can make my X23 good stuff.
Because I’m not some character proud weirdo? I don’t care if Laura players do well whatsoever. I root for my friends, and my region. I could give a damn what team they use. In fact, I don’t want her to do well, because then the small amount of potential goes out the window when people start studying how to beat her.
Only the people who relied on her dhc glitch will suck in this game. Those who have explored her mix-up options and frame trap game will excel in this game.
DM dont act high and mighty here when you havent really proven anything in tourney your my x-23 bro and all but thats not cool.
during an :h: MirageFeint? What do you guys tend to do to rushdown?