No overhead at 3:10
Right after the ultra, on wake up. Isnāt the crane j.mp isnāt an overhead?
Oh I know what youāre talking about. Ya I dunno I donāt call that an Instant Overhead, just a jump back over head but I know what you mean.
after a tall character, like abel in this case, blocks a high attack, the meaty safe jump fierce in this case, the jump back mp acts as an instant overhead. if he blocks low after blocking the jump fierce, the jump back mp will hit unless he mashes an invincible reversal like ex roll or something.
thus, instant overhead. situational, but it acts the same way against tall characters as would a chun jump back rh, or claw jump back fierce, or sim yoga sniper. i havent done any testing but it would probrablly work on any charcter who has a taller hitbox than a shoto
you can choose whatever name you wish, but the majority of the community calls an indistinguishable high attack that hits instantaneously, an instant overhead. i dunno, maybe it rolls off the tounge better
and of course its always been there, i was emphasizing the fact that an instant overhead would be a safe way to get the real damage after landing the ToD ultra. its pretty damn smart play IMO
What up fellas, first off let me start off by saying āGOOD SHIT!ā to the mounds and mounds of info ive been seeing in here, 2nd off a few top players have talked me into messing around with the game for a lil bit. So ill be using Gen of course and helping yall out with a few thingsā¦no negativity this time towards yall mainly talking to yeb/redwolf. Im on a stream with jibbo maybe 3 times a week you can find it here justin.tv/automattock jibbo is a heavy ibuki player at the moment and im using alot of blanka/honda but im still using gen just to give myself a mental work out. I feel that i have some valuable tactics and insight for this character against high level competition. Ill be up here to post info and vids as soon as i can. Again i sayā¦GOOD SHIT FELLAS
Almost, but not quite. A number of characters can do this kind of overhead, and for most, there is indeed a gap between hits. However, Genās jumping attacks cause more block stun than normal, and he uses a fast jumping attack, so there isnāt a gap. Itās impossible to mash out a reversal, and all the opponent can do is guess between the jump back overhead or low forward. I used to love abusing that stuff.
I think the proper term is actually a fuzzy guard overhead - at least, thatās what the Guilty Gear players call it, and I assume that kind of trick is more common in their game. Gen could do it against almost the entire cast before with mantis j.MK, but now heās probably limited to tall characters like anyone else. It should still be seamless, however.
And yeah, it should totally be abused with U2. I would hate U2 even more if it werenāt for that old trick.
oh, didnt know that there was no gap. now i just need a few more tall characters with fireballs like sagat. right now i cant think of too many reasons to pick that ultra set against non projectile chars. nice trick tho anyways
Iām going to try this out, sounds good and I hadnāt thought about it.
me vs a t.hawk, showing a good usage of the crane c.hp as wakeup option. i really love this move and used properly itās just pure win and non risky.
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question tho: what can condor dive (the thing out of a jump) be punished with? super, ultra, dash>mk? now that i think about it, i never questioned that myself. gonna try it in the next days and send it messiah to get it added to the matchup thread.
Ya Mantis Ultra 1 and Super punish it on block. Not sure about Dash > MK. I think Crane Super can counter it on reaction.
Wow thatās actually pretty handy, I really dislike fighting T. Hawk. Thatās one the coolest things about Gen, he can punish a lot of stuff with his mantis super/ultra. ^^
Good shit To tom last night on stream. Ill inform you about that rufus matchup later boss pm me
Is that stream recorded or anyhing?
We need some life up in this bitch, Gen forums have been all emo and boohoo so we could use some new vids.
Thatās the thing. Just about every other character I follow has plenty of videos of great players using them, except for Gen.
Yeah i saw that on the front page about asiantom playing on the stream but missed it. Iām not sure if heās playing Gen still. We Would love to see what Gen can do now in the hands of a good player. iāve seen some but they are hard to find.
As Far as Jibbo and Yeb, i hope they are jsut experimenting with the new cast like I am. So far iām liking Guy and makoto. Both are going to be tough to master as well.
Yeb has definately made the switch (to Cody I believe).
Anyway in the top 200 ranking of the Japanese XBL/PSN there is a Gen user with 4200 PP, his name is amiyu92. Iāll try my best to search Nico Nico with my limited Japanese for some more vids as he really is impressive. I think tha messiah will also upload some matches soon, not sure how good he is but judging his knowledge I am sure he is good.
I have 5100 something BP. Top 20 North American Gens. Been pretty slack playing lately because of the videos Iāve been making, but hoping to hit 6000BP soon.
Sounds like youāre pretty good. looking forward to it.
Wasnāt his name his name is amiyu99? Or maybe Iām just having a brain fart. Anyways yeah he was impressive. So was that other guy on nico vid as well. Yeah searching for Gen players on nico is tough especially when you donāt know Japanese. lol
We should play eachother soon, already added you on PSN, Iām also a B rank Gen. ^^ (5200 bp - 3100 PP)
Record that, so we have some cool new vids to add to the dead video thread.
Beat a B rank gen 20 - 1 in a private session today ā¦online ranks dont mean shit fellas