Last Blade 2 Character Guides/Advanced System thread

Dark_Geese · October 23, 2007, 8:04pm

Kyokuji you down for coming to EVO 2008 if I throw a Last Blade 2 tournament there???

Kyokuji · October 29, 2007, 12:00pm

Probably not. I wouldn’t have any means of transportation among other things. Plus I can’t imagine the turn out being very huge. I think you said last year that nobody really showed, and most of the people who did had no clue what they were doing.
If I did find a way to go, it would probably be to play A3 and 3S as well.

System_1 · November 18, 2007, 4:13am

hi there SRKs, first post! :o

i played lb2 the first time today, without reading anything about it and at the char selection screen i thougt “now, this time u wont choose a top tier. u start with a sucking underdog! at the bottom right, there wont be a top tier!” so i choosed this undead guy (Mukuro) on speed mode.

i didnt want to start like i did with sfII (ryu), MK (sub zero), tekken (paul)…to sf3:3s (akuma). i wanted a “weaker tier” to start with.

gnah! ive choosen mukuro and got used to him :o

to give this post any sence: thanks for ur guide! :o
(now starting to read the whole thing)

Kyokuji · November 18, 2007, 6:27am

Beginner friendly doesn’t mean there isn’t any depth to them. Mukuro has a lot of advanced shit; it’s just that he’s very strong even without any of it.

Ryu was bottom tier in SF2:WW anyway.
Worry less about tiers, and find someone you like.

Dracula_X · November 20, 2007, 9:32pm

Combo video i made showing various power mode combos for some characters. i try to show mostly useful stuff rather than glitch combos. Music is corny and so is the editing but w/e.

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ThrowTheDice · November 21, 2007, 3:58am

Good idea. With all the batshit zaniness and “INFINITE COMBO GO” in LB2 it’s good to have a guide on the pragmatic stuff.

Kyokuji · November 21, 2007, 7:24am

I would suggest not using :dp::snkb: on its own to end combos with Moriya. They can flip afterwards unless it’s part of the :dp::snka: chain and hit you during your recovery animation.

Dracula_X · November 29, 2007, 9:47am

Yeah but you you can’t chain them in power mode of course. Basically i was going for practical combos and damage. Mostly. The next vid should be better if i ever finish it that is.

Kyokuji · November 29, 2007, 11:34am

New videos up from Mikado:

Winner: P-Zantetsu

Zantetsu player doesn’t abuse dash-slash enough --every time someone jumped forward, he should’ve knocked them on their ass-- and people let him get away with tons of unsafe shit, but it’s good seeing people play in any case.
Honestly, I think the only reason he won is because people were scared of the dash-slice, but he wasn’t even using it very well. Like in the one video, that Kagami player is just sitting there waiting for it half the time and he ends up getting thrown and wasting opportunities.

I took Zantetsu off the ban-list just because the scene’s too disorganized, and people are all over the place with him. One place allows him, another doesn’t. Just like some people allow two teleport loops for Moriya while others only allow one. A-CHO doesn’t even play the game anymore anyway, although I really liked their version of the ban-list.

Mushishi_Ginko · November 29, 2007, 12:24pm

2:14 in the 3rd place P-Kagami VS P-Mukuro match. I can only imagine the string of obscenities that escaped the Mukuro player’s mouth after that match. It’s like when you wind up doing Kagami’s :qcb::snkc: meter charge simply by executing :d::snkc: if you’re crossed up with the right timing… but 5 times worse. I’m guessing he tried to do Mukuro’s :hcf::snka: before his controls had reoriented following Kagami’s roll underneath him.

Some interesting stuff in this batch. That S-Akari player got downright nasty. I’m not too impressed with the P-Kagami players. I’m sure Kyokuji would school 'em in P-Kagami.

Kyokuji · November 29, 2007, 12:30pm

Yeah, that’s the downside of having large buffer windows.

Mushishi_Ginko · November 30, 2007, 7:48am

I’ve been playing around with speed mode :snka::snkb::snkc: combos (not to be confused with speed combo specials) a bit lately. I’m mostly just trying to figure out if there’s any practical use for them. On many the damage isn’t as bad as you would expect, but I’m going to assume that each character has more damaging combos available to them that are relatively easy to execute. The only use I can imagine for them is that with many characters they can be completed from fairly far away, and this may extend the range from which you can effectively combo. Anyone have any ideas on how these could be useful?

Kyokuji · November 30, 2007, 8:40am

Well, if you need a quick knockdown, it does do more damage than :snka: :snkb: :df::snkc:, but not by much.
I guess it could be used to bait flips and punish if your character’s overhead sucks, but most of the characters with shitty overheads are better in power anyway.

Mushishi_Ginko · December 8, 2007, 11:27pm

I’m not a Moriya expert, but I think what he was getting at is that it’s fairly easy for your opponent to air recover and punish you during the recovery animation if you’re finishing combos with :dp::snkb: as opposed to :dp::snka:. I didn’t know this until I dropped into practice a moment ago, but you can air recover from the B verison, but not the A version. Even if ending with the B version gives you a little more damage it’s probably not worth the risk.

In case you’re wondering (I was) here’s the types of recoveries you can do from the various versions of Moriya’s :dp: uppercut slash

Power/Speed :dp::snka: - ground recovery
Power/Speed :dp::snkb: - air or ground recovery
Speed :dp::snka: + :dp::snkb: - none

djdelly · December 9, 2007, 1:03am

I’m getting my ass handed to me by throws, is there any way to cancel them?

Kyokuji · December 9, 2007, 7:40am

Just jump. You get off the ground very quickly in this game. You can force resets against a lot of shit as well, and that’s actually part of what separates high level players from lower level ones.

You pretty much have to be point blank to land a throw in this game anyway.

WiL_1 · December 10, 2007, 4:28am

You really need to master the short jump in this game.

Mushishi_Ginko · December 10, 2007, 6:57am

Mastering short jumping is pretty much mandatory if you want to play this game at a level above beginner/mid-level. Unless you have a very unresponsive controller you CAN do it. It’ll just take some time to get it down. I think it’s a bit ridiculous how much this changes your offensive potency, but you have to play the game as it’s presented.

Kyokuji · December 10, 2007, 9:35pm

Basically.

Don’t fall too far in love with it though. There are plenty of times where it’s better to be above or parallel with your opponent based on what air normal you’re using and where they are on the screen.

Kyokuji · December 15, 2007, 3:39pm

Kagami dive/command throw glitch

Oh, holy shit, I’m pretty sure this is the glitch me and Bobo recorded a long ass time ago. I have no idea how it found its way onto youtube. Let alone this guy’s account.