No worries… I misread it. Is thought it was cl st mk > cl st mk.
Cl st lk > cl st mk works on everybody per 1 frame link, same as lp > cl st mk…
I still think cl st lk is worthless though… As the hit and block stun is shit… And iirc you can’t cancel it either.
I’ll stop here bc my blood is about to start boiling over simple changes they could make to round him out…
I’ve been using cl.st.lp, cl.st.mk as a string lately to set up my cr.hp frame trap. When I do cr.lpx2 I actually have to sit there and wait to hit the cr tech because of the frame advantage. I’m finding that because cl.st.lk has such poor blockstun I can immediately hit cr.hp , kinda like Im doing a block string and its been working. Just a little personal thing. I guess using its weakness as a strength. But you’re right, its a shitty move all around lol.
Lately in wonky situations I’ve been having lk and mk crossup and DEEP. Tbh I cant even really recall the specific situations Im referring to but its happened to me about 5 times over the last week. I’ll be doing something and trade which puts my opponent in a juggle state or something, then I mk gf kick to try and safe jump and it seems because of the angle they are and me coming down on their wakeup frames, they’ll wake up and I kinda pass through them? Its so weird. Sometimes I completely whiff and just land on the other side and Im like “WTF was that?!” …because Im looking for a safe jump in front…and then sometimes I actually I kinda pass through them and crossup them up. Its beyond weird. Kinda like having a hado over your opponent on wakup and it hit the back of their body and crossing up…but thats what the divekick is doing but only in weird situations. Anyone else experience this? I need to really make a note of when this happens so I can recreate it and actually have it as a setup.
Yeah it depends on when you’ve crossed their “prime meridian”… And how their hit boxes shift.
In short… It’s a glitch in the game, thats why you have things like unblockables etc…
Even stranger, you’ll find that if they try to reversal you when that happens they will go the opposite way…
Look at the pass thru glitch on my you tube page… You are taking advAntage of that same window… Grey area… Just with a diff attack
Yeah, well we need to recreate this lol. If we knew exactly what state they are gonna be in and how to mimic it we can force it and exploit it which we be beyond dangerous. Like I said, Im gonna try and make a note of what happens so I can hit training.
As for now I know if you backthrow Guy, do a jumping one hit mp, lk gf kick, if he crouches it will cross him up. I do it all the time and its amazing. This prompted me to go into training and see what else this brings. So if you do this setup it appears to work on almost everybody. You can get it to cross up standing or crouching but requires manual timing. If you see your opponent standing then you just do the regular dive kick but if he’s crouching you have to delay it a bit. Either way it’ll cross up. A while back I was supposed to make a vid with all of my crossup setups because I have about 7 or so. When/if I get some time I still will.
Maybe tomorrow, I’ll be in the house all day.
Im due for some time in the lab sonI will take a look as well… As most of my set ups were/are for when they are getting up and not trading.
The other ones I have are to cross them up during frame traps / block strings and out of resets.
If the end result i determined by which direction / button they press it may be a little more difficult bc it’s not canned.
Are you trying recreate this on wake up???
The best way to get it, is to try to make Goukens center point over lap with there’s when they wake up. Dive kick is a bit tricker than Dj mk bc the hit box is angled and your window is tighter b of the timing for dive kick.
Yeah its on their wakeup. I just cant remember what it was that puts them in a downed state. I think its off of some sort of juggle or trade but for the life of me cant remember. All I remember is having the wtf moment afterwards. Thinking on it Im feeling like I begin the gf kick slightly before they hit the ground, trying to get a safe jump and because lk gf and mk have set distances I’m coming down on their wakeup and sometimes passing through them or on their center like you’re saying, while they’re waking up. Sometimes I completely land on the other side and sometimes its passing through them and crosses them up LOL. Its so crazy looking. Its because Goukens gf kick is active all the way to the ground. I just need to remember or have it happen again so I can take note and mimic.
If you wanna do a vid or something let me know and I’ll combine and capture
This sounds familiar…
Wakeup horizon … Prime meridians… Techbrainchild…yummmy…
i don’t know if someone has tried this, jump in mk, hk by all shotos it can be countered by lk tatsumaki!!! they can be 2 miles away or on top of you and it works… nobody??
hmmmm… my only fear is it dropping and the fact that you can safe jump the shit out of it.
I haven’t really tested though, so it might be a good side note.
let me rewrite this, so i’m not confusing everybody, if your opponent jumps in (diagonal jump) with lk, mk or hk you can hit him with cr.lk linked into tatsu, that’s how it is, my apologies for the bad writing!! (comboable) the reason for this is that sometimes i get counter hit by Ryu’s dj hk and when they are on top of you with the lk…
Yeah because his dj.hk is ridiculously long and active for some reason. Guess they had to give golden boy SOMETHING
HP kongo usually beats ryus dj hk.
Always beats unless you do it late.
On those dj hk from ken and ryu try a wakeup dj hk or dj lp with gouken towards the attack… Very neat.
That’s only if they jump late, right? I’m sure that wouldn’t work if they’re aiming for a deep jump-in for example.
I would say it’s variations are many…
I’ve used wakeup dj normals to cross under while escaping alot of stuff through the years…
Use dj lp for example vs giefs body splash ambigs towards the opponent at your discretion of course…
Give it a whirl !
Just so I’m not mistaking it, when you say “dj”, you mean diagonal jump, right? haha