Yeah, stop holding the direction after you input it, go back to neutral as son as you can.
hey dandy can you give me some combo tips for JD? I was playing someone that said shooting kick 2 and Gunshow 3 were better but he wouldn’t tell me what he does with them.
Gunshow 2 and shooting kick 2 is the best combination.
With shooting kick 2, just do another shooting kick on counter-hit for max damage. Same deal for after counter-hit 66k, shooting kick2/3 after that is max damage. After shooting kick 3 on counter you can get eruption but it’s just way too slow, and shooting kick 2 is a nice move anyway.
Gunshow 3 on normal hit midscreen guarantees nothing, but against the wall you can get 6ppk. On counter, 66p into the hit throw is guaranteed. The problem is, gunshow 3 is really slow, and just as punishable as gunshow 2 on block (and way more likely to get punished because since it’s slower, they have more time to react when blocking.
Gunshow 2 guarantees the air throw on any hit, plus it’s just as fast as normal gunshow. You can use this in some nasty mixups where gunshow 3 won’t work.
For example, after wild boar (the ukemi throw), an immediate gunshow 2 CANT be sidestepped (because there is a weird buffer window where sidestep has startup. This + lag means that gunshow 2/multi throw is a pure 50/50 mixup since they can’t use sidestep + throw break.
anyone still suffering from kwonho burn out?
if by burnout you mean “dont feel like playing kwonho because it sucks and i can play other games online that are better without hella lag”
then yes
yes i am suffering from kwonho burnout
Alright thanks for the tip.
I still play because I don’t really know any other fighting games online and I don’t really care to use kaillera. It certainly has big problems but until I find something else fighting game wise online to distract me I’ll probably keep playing for a while.
Yeah i am. It took them too long to rerelease it, then it took them even longer to make the game playable again.
Not being able to play on East despite 2x server request forms
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Gameplay issues
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annoying community
= gg time better spent elsewhere
So… Now that Evo has passed, anyone still playing this game?
Edit: WTF, I’m still stuck on World server, gay. Fuck this shit.
*Goes back to whatever I was playing before Evo…
‘big’ patch coming wednesday
ill play for a week then quit again
Is judo going to get that unblockable grab strike thing? Maybe I’ll try and make time to play now that the new semester has started.
the game was amazing on release, i remember when everyone was hyping it. Then it just came back as a failure to me. I dunno I guess the time it took them to release it and then come back with the worst than what you expected is what made me not even wanna play it.
Level 18 Judo - Paperbowzer - West coast
Level 13 Muay-Thai - Paperbowser - West Coast
I want to thank you guys, if this thread was never made, I would have still been raiding and playing WoW.
Kwonho is awesome, hoping the patch will make it even more fun Buff JD cough cough.
New patch is done, everything about the actual game is fixed now. Only problem is…netcode is the same. But at least everything else is fixed.
Did they increase the back dash? Judo gets its unblockable but no grab follow up so it’s kinda pointless.
Back dash is improved.
I wouldn’t say that JD’s unblockable is pointless. It’s good to add a 4KK after it.
Hahaha, with JD’s unblockable I get fancy sometimes, and lifting throw run under them unblockable 4KK, I am yet to have someone hit me out of it as unblockable hits right when stuns over (im almost sure there is way thou). I also like how it has a 66 input at the end to dash in on wakeup for people that dont kick, Ive been messing with it on backdash to counter wakeup kick too. Yeah, you might be able to tell I want it to be good real bad.
On another note anyone but me think all the BJ’er whinning are nuts? I think patch helped them most, (the backdash mostly) next to maybe MT.
As a TK’er (Paleforce), Im not so happy, nosejob? plz…
Also what peoples best follow up with BJ replace throw, I got real excited thinking double fister might work (with replace how nuts would that be with mixups) but yeah no = / …o well
Best followup is 1P:P+K jf (54 damage), but it’s REALLY inconsistent. PK is actually the next best damage at 50, which is 4 more than palm, elbow. PK does a lot more damage than it used to, so pretty much every combo where palm, elbow was used is replaced by PK now. 1P, PK is actually the most damaging followup to a normal hit dashing elbow, more than jf jump kicks. It can also replace mountain breaker in the counter-hit dash elbow combo, though you can probably make mountain breaker do more if you use the clothes and shit.
Overall I’m pleased with the patch. One thing people haven’t been taking about much yet is MT’s non-jf combo off the new panther upper. You can do 236P, 236PP+K, PP+KK or PPP+K (those do the same damage now), and it does 120 damage! There’s no reason to really bother with the jf when you hit with panther upper.
If you want to feel horrible about yourself, play Inazuma on East. He was always a really straight up power mixup player, and the new upper will make you want to die lmao. Maybe TK will have a better time, but I had a hard time winning with baji, because throwing out panther as baji moves in is totally in mt’s favor. Basically it’ll go under 66p, so you can’t really use that to poke. You can’t use any mids in an offensive way on a dash-in against it or you’ll get hit. It’s hard to explain really, but most of the time I felt my best option on dashing in was to block. You have to just keep distance and use K+G, and watch for whiffs to hit with shoulder and that’s about it. I mean that’s normal baji I guess, but I felt it was way out of my favor to try to pressure in his face.
The main problem with Baji is that to win, you have to bait people into attacking when you can backdash -> shoulder stuff. Against mashers -> intermediate players that’s not much to ask, but once you start playing people with really solid defense and spacing it’s really hard. Part of the reason is lag. Baji NEEDS to be able to see a whiff while they are backdashing before they do shoulder(s), because it’s punishable. In the case of the double shoulders it’s launchable on block (yes MT 236P is guaranteed). It makes it kind of tough when you already have to MAKE people attack you to get good damage. Dash elbow is good, but it’s way too fucking slow for the range it covers and how in their face you have to be for it to hit. I really would be lying if I said there was any good place to use that on a MT other than on wakeup with 1000 frames of advantage. It pretty much all comes back around to using K+G constantly.
Baji is definitely the ‘patience’ class now along with Judo, and I keep on going back and forth about keep playing it. I like the style, but I don’t like that I have to use K+G 10000 a match and turtle to out-wait people into eating shoulders. It just gets old after awhile not being to really mount an offense like from strings like MT PPK, TK 6KK into FL, or TC PP/PPP.
Haha yeah, Im fighting the urge to switch to MT , but I like defensive play/turling (TK was real solid with that but now withback dash I can rethink my options) so I think imma stick with JD or BJ now.
Lol, I prolly played against Ina more than I played against anyone b4 the patch, yeah real tough mixups hahah very challenging , I havent gotten on the opposing side of him post patch, but I was on team with him and Champeon and they were wrecking fools with that juggle… I wasnt really scared at all about pather b4 patch as it was real punishable, but now I gotta deal with are they following up with 2nd part or not (maybe its interuptable? dunno havent experimented yet)…yeah not looking forward to that…but lets just say MT was my least favorite matchup b4 so yeah should be fun…o_o…
Yeah keep your head up with BJ, since there arnt many good BJ players and all the bad ones are whinning it may look bleak now, but Im sure you or Sea will figure out some sick shit.
I have to play this keyboard, and it is literally like pulling teeth.
I really want to play Judo. I think I have 1 win 16 losses.