haha i just played you vrus. <- waffles__
TK f,f+K N Juggle String > all. crazy damage on lv6+
loads of MT scrubs doing same chain over and over. Thank God for b, b, K+G
Some of my thoughts:
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The connection lag (very little for me normally) plus the button lag (using keyboard) makes it almost impossible to block, or sidestep, on reaction.
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Since the buttons have to be input very quickly it makes it a guessing game on whether the opponent is going to block low, or high, in the middle of the attack string; instead of letting you see if the opponent is blocking low, or high, and giving you the chance to react accordingly.
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Throws are BALLS. Seriously…they just suck. If the opponent does anything (except block high) then you’re getting smacked. The game’s system itself nerfs Judo HARD.
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TC is easily the best. It doesn’t do that great of damage; but it has nice mix-up, counter holds, and possibly the best jab in the game.
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After a ground attack (at least with MT); you have to block in order not to get hit with the opponent’s rise attack. You don’t have time to dash away after the attack. Meaning if you want to hit the downed opponent; then you are putting yourself in a 50/50 set-up to get knocked down yourself.
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The system favors the agressor too much. It is hard to get out of an attack string because the block-stun is a little too long sometimes, and the button presses have to be done fairly early if you want an attack to initiate right after the block-stun ends.
MT juggles:
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f, f+K+G XX P, P, K
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d, d/f, f+P XX P, G, P, P+K, K+G
Anyone got better juggles for the MT?
I played roughly fifteen games with Judo and ten games with Muay Thai; Judo as of right now is not worth it thanks to little to no hitstun on most moves, heavy blockstun on most pokes and strings which spell death to Judo users. It does not help that most of the people I fought were string spammers either and whenever I did fight something who knew what they were doing, they knew better to block high and eat a throw. Even when I did land a throw, the damage does not make up for all of the work that has to be put into it first.
With Muay Thai, I also faced a lot of string spammers, but I usually pushed them away with the PK string; it leaves them out of punch distance and a frame disadvantage. I use this setup for ff G+K into the P, G+K, P string for roughly 40 damage. I could not find a efficient setup for the qcf+P launcher and the fact that it has no horizontal range at all did not help. Whenever I did land it, I did P, G+K, P with a very slight delay after the first P. If you do it correctly, it will not do the string, but instead a punch into the two knees for 58 damage and 64 damage on a counter hit.
ff G+K seems to be pretty safe; on block it pushes them away a bit and leaves them in moderate blockstun. If it is blocked, I started applying some pressure with f+P or walk up slightly and do it again.
This is all that I have for now; feel free to add to this or correct me.
the game is pretty amazing, with all things considered it is free. I’ve had games where the lag wasn’t very bad. Kind of a refreshing game. Currently using Ba Ji Quan fighting style… It’s quite hard but I can see it being a top fighting style to experienced players.
I find BJ really easy to use after getting the qcb + P move, maybe i just got used to the weird block stun in the game though 
yeah but it’s not like you can just spam that move, Gotta use it as a counter and alto of people are mashing punch in your face as muay thai. But i’ve found other ways around that.
Yea at first I found MT hard as hell to fight, but its not hard to stuff them back, BJ doesnt have THAT bad priority on the punch string.
GalzPanic, will the full or should I say open beta be available right after the closed?
Also there were many users on today, keep the test up 24/7 imo 
Enjoyable game. Give whoever is responsible for that matchmaking system a big pat on the back for me, it’s outstanding! :woot:
The only complaint I have is the strict time constraints on the beta, please try to get it pushed to 24hours.
Thanx for the comments…
Lol I hate to sound like a broken record, but whatever you want comes with more users. We’re hoping for a bunch more ppl this weekend…if we get what we want, there’s a chance we can open 24.
arent judo practitioners reliant on negating peoples moves, meaning having full knowledge of possible movements, timing, weight, estimated speed of attacks, and mental stability?
meaning why are people bothering to pick judo when ur not an expert at the game, its judo not tkd with throws 
i cant play this game yet
Went through Judo, BJ and MT and seriously MT is so much easier to play as well as being extremely fast.
Currently playing Kysi lv5 MT.
Currently I only really see MT, TK and TC as being any good at all.
Judo gets stuffed out a lot and for some stupid reason, throws do not connect during attack animations so someone could start jabbing after they see you try to throw and you would whiff and get smacked.
Playing on Keyboard, BJ is such a pain to play, but I do see potential in it, though it really requires players to be patient and learn when to Guard Cancel into something. Only thing I didn’t really like about BJ was that it felt pretty weak too. There doesn’t seem to be a whole lot you can combo with in BJ even after connecting f,f,p+k aside from like 2 extra hits and even after connecting launchers like b,f,g+k you’re rewarded with at most 3 extra hits that don’t really do much.
TC I never tried, but from what I’ve seen, it’s kind of one dimensional. The waits after certain strings can be taken advantage of by BJ and TK, but everybody else doesn’t really have anything to deal with it other than just moving out of range and waiting since a lot of the waits are low and everybody else just has really slow mids.
TK and MT kind of go hand in hand. TK seems to be the safer of the 2 and has a lot of different high low strings that are easy to do. MT has like 1 low string, but I find it difficult to pull it out when I want to. Maybe 30-40% rate and it’s kind of odd that the low misses if the first few attacks hit. MT is pretty 1 dimensional too, but the throw is just so scary that a lot of people panic near the edge of the stage. Especially when the counter to it is crouching, but the end of the bnb p spam combo are mids and that protects from dangerous counters. TK becomes a bit more dangerous as you can knock people out of the ring from just regular attacks and they fair better at midrange as well.
The game has certain mind games, but there’s not enough offensive depth yet. You get a few string branches later, but they leave you pretty wide open to attack either way if blocked. Hopefully that changes when you level up further and get new skills.
Seriously, it’s a little hard to get them to join because of the time <_< My friends are either working swing shift or out for dinner.
Btw, are you gonna be one of the GMs for that challenge event?
The game is fun. Needs a little work with the movement though. i find myself being stuck and not able to sidestep as often as i’d like. MT’s throw is top tier though, TK’s 4P+G is good also when you’re trapped at the edge.
you sonofabitch you probably beat me too. My win record with her is horrible, but I still love the style. Anyways if I she has any juggles, would be much appreciated.
I think tc is the toptier simply because he has a huge mixup, lots of safe pokes and anti ss sweeps. When people start treating this as a 3d game, it’s going to get interesting.
Keep the test up 24/7! At least for weekend! It’s so much easier finding stuff out.
Has anybody found any CH launchers for Muay Thai provided that there are many?
Muay Thai combo damage seems to be solid right now, so I cannot imagine how much more it will do once I upgrade the damage on them.
The game does favor agressors but if you have noticed, most MT players just spam punches and use that delayed knee combo at the end of it. Just do a low attack and stop them. Using BJ right now without alot of combo strings I still find myself in control most of the time against alot of players. The advancing mids that BJ has always stuff people who mash buttons and it’s free hits for me.
As per usual, my computer is too crappy to play it. If there are graphic settings somewhere in the game, let me know. It was raping my poor video card pretty bad.:shake:
I just do the PK string into ff G+K, P, P+K, K. The spammers do not learn anything and eat it everytime.