Korean arcade parts discussion

KillerandUndertaker · May 28, 2017, 4:04am

Focusattack.com has [url=“https://www.focusattack.com/crown-cwl-309helpme-k-jms-st35-joystick-clear-black/”]Crown CWL 309Helpme levers in stock.

Edit: Red & white colors available as well.

Hassun · May 28, 2017, 4:12am

ProgressiveBalance:

Hassun:

How much work would the Razer Panthera need to be adapted to Korean levers? I’m trying to figure out if it’s cheaper to try and get one of those modded than it is to import an Etokki Omni.
Although modders are exceedingly hard to find in Europe.

Yeah, i’m planning to mod my TE-S for a K stick at the moment and it should be cheaper for us in the UK not to import an etokki omni. Just remember it’s going to still be expensive and a lot of work but still cheaper than importing a whole stick, but i wouldn’t rule that out. From my experience buying a Qanba Q1, the stick was around £100 after you pay for shipping and then import charges. This was also for a small stick that cost under £50 from Play Asia.

To mod your stick you will need to either buy a replacement plexi, like i’m planning to with the 35mm joystick hole, or use a 35mm step drill on both the metal panel and plexi, but if you buy a replacement plexi, you can always go back to Japanese joysticks if you want. I found one of these drills at £50. You will have to go really careful and use some cutting fluid for this so that your drill doesn’t overheat and fuck everything up(no clue about the cost but this shouldn’t be an issue). You can find a Kowal converter plate from Arcade world UK. Try rotating this 90 degrees so that the joystick base is hanging outside the mounting plate. You can’t get a Fanta from anywhere in Europe as far as I know, so you will have to import that too. Then i’m sure you already know the rest. The joystick should fit inside the Panthera with ample amounts of space.

If you calculate the cost of the joystick, mounting pate, 8-pin harness and new plexi, you should have it cost less than an etokki.(not including the price of the stick to begin with)

hope this helps =)

Thanks for the info!
I think if I import an Etokki it will be around €300.
A Panthera is €239 by itself.

It might actually be hard to undercut that €300…

CRITICALSHOT · May 28, 2017, 3:46pm

Is the sdl-301-dx infiltration lever out for purchase? If so, can I have a link?

platynumx · May 28, 2017, 5:03pm

I don’t think it comes out until next month officially.

ProgressiveBalance · May 29, 2017, 3:39am

Hassun:

ProgressiveBalance:

Hassun:

How much work would the Razer Panthera need to be adapted to Korean levers? I’m trying to figure out if it’s cheaper to try and get one of those modded than it is to import an Etokki Omni.
Although modders are exceedingly hard to find in Europe.

Yeah, i’m planning to mod my TE-S for a K stick at the moment and it should be cheaper for us in the UK not to import an etokki omni. Just remember it’s going to still be expensive and a lot of work but still cheaper than importing a whole stick, but i wouldn’t rule that out. From my experience buying a Qanba Q1, the stick was around £100 after you pay for shipping and then import charges. This was also for a small stick that cost under £50 from Play Asia.

To mod your stick you will need to either buy a replacement plexi, like i’m planning to with the 35mm joystick hole, or use a 35mm step drill on both the metal panel and plexi, but if you buy a replacement plexi, you can always go back to Japanese joysticks if you want. I found one of these drills at £50. You will have to go really careful and use some cutting fluid for this so that your drill doesn’t overheat and fuck everything up(no clue about the cost but this shouldn’t be an issue). You can find a Kowal converter plate from Arcade world UK. Try rotating this 90 degrees so that the joystick base is hanging outside the mounting plate. You can’t get a Fanta from anywhere in Europe as far as I know, so you will have to import that too. Then i’m sure you already know the rest. The joystick should fit inside the Panthera with ample amounts of space.

If you calculate the cost of the joystick, mounting pate, 8-pin harness and new plexi, you should have it cost less than an etokki.(not including the price of the stick to begin with)

hope this helps =)

Thanks for the info!
I think if I import an Etokki it will be around €300.
A Panthera is €239 by itself.

It might actually be hard to undercut that €300…

The Etokki also has the same layout as Tekken cabinets. A small detail but might be something to think about. You can still swap and change Plexi and artwork and with the new rev, I think some of this have been improved.

Guys, what stick was SAINT using? Also is there an article or something where he talks about crown levers. I’m so confused. Why do all the partnership Korean levers have to be crowns? Are crowns better to HelpMe, a Infiltration and saint?

platynumx · May 29, 2017, 4:08am

No idea what saint was using but a helpme and infiltration are both models sold by crown. Perhaps modified from a base model but crown none the less. As to what is better doesn’t that come down to the old personal preference bit?

VarmintBaby · May 29, 2017, 4:41am

I was able to install a Myougshin Fanta into my HORI RAP4 Kai with KOF art. I removed the art with a heat gun took the panel out and sandwiched it between some cinderblocks. Then I used a step bit I ordered off Amazon and drilled the 35mm hole. It worked great! Right now, so I can use it over the 3 day weekend, I have the Fanta on it’s normal mount held in the stick with rubberbands. Tight hold. I have a Kowal Universal plate coming on Tuesday that I’ll install it on permanently. This was really easy to do and I recommend it to anyone that wants to use a Korean stick on a Japanese case. I’ll put up a post detailing the steps once my art and plexi come and I get everything installed and all the pictures of the process. Sorry for the long read, later!

CRITICALSHOT · May 29, 2017, 5:09am

Thanks

VarmintBaby · May 29, 2017, 7:27am

Where can I order the Golden Fanta mod?

noober2 · May 29, 2017, 10:02am

thanks for this tip, i was trying to figure out how i could use a step bit on a TE 2 panel without having to use vice grips and a drill press.

fithfith · May 29, 2017, 10:06am

@wazwuz

VarmintBaby · May 29, 2017, 10:56am

Focus attack has the Crown 309 HelpMe lever on sale again. I just bought one for $18.01. I had $20 in rewards coupon money to use. I can’t wait to get it and compare it to my Fanta lever.

Here’s the link to it here:http://tinyurl.com/y7fnx783

Hassun · May 29, 2017, 5:10pm

Let us know what you think!

kodee_vu · May 31, 2017, 2:37am

Saint used a crown 309 at combo breaker.

I tried the infiltration lever demo, as well. It felt damn good, but didn’t get to try it plugged up to tekken. Hype increased 10x.

ProgressiveBalance · May 31, 2017, 11:51pm

Is an no collar 309FJ as good as a MJ or Helpme? I ask because I plan to get an 309 before I get a Myoungshin. Not having to drill my case just until later is a lot more practical as I don’t want to drill my case just yet, but I don’t want to compromise on performance. So far I believe the only difference is a lighter tension grommet in the 309MJ to the Helpme, but could what about the no collar 309FJ?

LordFu · May 31, 2017, 11:56pm

They’re not identical, but I like them both. The Myoungshin is significantly different than either 309 model.

VarmintBaby · June 1, 2017, 3:38am

Why IS a collared Korean stick considered better than the non-collared? Can someone explain this? Thanks in advance if you do.

Elston87 · June 1, 2017, 6:47am

FocusAttack is now carrying the SDB-201 buttons. $4 a button for solid colors and $5 a button for translucent colors. Well damn.

As much as I know about Korean sticks, they all have collars, as compared to the Japanese-mounting variants, in which not all of them do, or rather, the circular gate was mounted flush with the mounting plate. According to this review from The Phantomnaut (can’t tag the name properly due to a space), the small version of the neck gate allows for more consistent movement, akin to the normal Korean joysticks.

Then again, I wouldn’t consider it “better” per say, since I know some users of the Crown 303-FK, mostly Guilty Gear players actually, who are perfectly content with it, with similar results when they tried out the standard 309 model without the mini neck gate.

VarmintBaby · June 1, 2017, 7:09am

Edit: delete stupid question

jey-are · June 1, 2017, 7:57am

VarmintBaby:

So you guys I’m really torn. I’ve been using Hitbox for about 5mo now and I’ve gotten pretty good with it. I just discovered Korean levers and I like them so far. All I have is a Myoungshin Fanta but I’m not as good execution wise with that as I am with the Hitbox. Should I continue to struggle with Fanta (and soon a Crown 309 Helpme from FA ) or just stick to what I know with the Hitbox. I played japanese stick before the Hitbox and had gotten really good on it but I’ve lost a lot of that skill. Don’t get me wrong I’m not terrible on stick, just not as precise as on Hitbox. I don’t know what to do man geez. Korean levers are cool and I’m getting Tekken 7 tomorrow. Korean backdash on hitbox seems lackluster compared to learning the skill on a lever. What do you think?

I don’t blame you for feeling the way you do. I was conflicted when I first started out playing arcadestick from pad. I felt I was sloppy with the JLF it came with. I would often switch back and forth. Because I felt I was better on pad at the time. If I could compare it to anything, I’d say it’s like learning a new instrument. Practice and sticking with it will pay off eventually.

IMO do what feels right. For me, when I play Tekken, I enjoy it more on stick. Especially on a K-stick. Some would feel otherwise.

I remember coming from playing on crown’s and switching to M-fanta, there was a difference I had to adjust to. I felt on the crown’s I could bat them around more. “Open grip” or whatever you call it. And on the M-fanta, I used a more “closed grip” lighter touch. Shorter twitches. But that’s just me.