I’ll ask this again: How do you handle a Kyo tha constantly rushes you down and keeps hopping at you? I can’t really see that many openings in his offense and I always end up zoning him out with Terry. I need help with handling him as Iori,K’ or Clark.
Iori…dp+A will snuff it out…
K- The invincibility frames of the DP+C will make Kyo methodically hyperhop against you.
Clark…use the DP+ P jump air move or just dont let him get on you…
also use Cr. C as an AA or stay on top of Kyo…
any advice on ramon or momoko?? I am a ramon user and I give ppl a hard time due to the fact that not a lot of ppl use him in my area but then againg i don’t have the chance to play taht many ppl. umm as far as momoko goes i just like to get better with her and I need all the advice i can get with her please.
K’ can sometimes stand A hyperhops, mess with the spacing/timing and see where you can make use of it.
But yeah, better to just keep him from getting started in the first place. Worse comes to worst, you can use a bar and guard cancel to knock him back.
K can also cr.d HH if you have your spacing right…
I could give you Momoko info later and Ramon info. Because Im rather tied up at the momemt PM E-Bortion for Ramon info…and then once you get that down I’ll give you the Momoko info…
Sorry ahead if this has been adressed, but I’m curious about KoF XI and plan to make it my first import when my PS2 gets mod treatment. Here are a few questions I’m curious about.
What are good shoto like characters to get a feel for? I like using Terry in 2K2/2K3 and CvS2, do his combo’s from those games translate over here or are there new moves?
I was curious on how Oswald and Gato rank up to the rest of the cast, are the under/overpowered or balanced just right?
Is the new tag in feature very handy or a nuisance? From match videos I see great combo’s coming out of it, but without playing it it looks odd to me.
Is Kyo his “New” incarnation or the '98 and prior type? From the vids I see no ground fireballs, I was curious because I’ve never played with that Kyo other than in Max. Impact 2.
Is Choi a playable character? Also is Rugal back or still “Dead” If not is his kid(s) in it?
Okay, I can answer a coupla questions myself.
First off, Rugal is still dead, but Adel is playable.
I’m not too familiar with Kyo, but he DOES have a ground fireball
Gato & Oswald are two of the three best people in the game. Gato is higher.
Choi is NOT playable
Terry is a good beginner character, and hes also a good pro character. I can’t say how he is compared to his CvS2 reincarnation, but he has much easier, better combos.
Good shoto characters? I’d say start out with Kyo, K’, Iori, Kula, Silber, Adel, & benimaru are some good characters to start out with. The only people that are actually “complicated” are Oswald, Momoko, Gai, and Gato(to some extent).
And to restate, my team is Lizzy/Momoko/Shingo. Get HYPE for the top-tier team. ;o
In the home version, there are two versions of Kyo.
XI Kyo has the ground fireball and chain special moves.
EX Kyo (Ripped straight from NGBC) is one of the extra characters added to the console port. He has no fireballs, but plays like classic Kyo aka THE combo machine.
It is pretty good. It isn’t perfect but a massive step up from '03, definately one of the best changes in the KOF history.
Thanks a lot both of you, I thought the graphics engine was amazing and the gameplay looks solid and fast paced. Can’t wait to get my hands on it.
Two more Q’s and I’m done for today:
What are Terry’s special moves? I’m assuming he has Buster Wolf and possibly Power Geyser?
Does Adel play basically like Rugal? Or is he kind of like the Rock to Terry, having some of his moves mixed with someone else?
learn another character besides terry you damn fanboy
Uh, Terry has power geiser, buster wolf, and white power LDM.
You’ve never played Adel before? Wow, thats pretty hard to believe. >_> Well anyways, Adel’s genocide cutter is super only, and there are two versions. First version is slide on the ground into cutter. Second version is just pain cutter, good for anti-airs and wakeups. He has god press, but his two versions are the special unblockable version, and the second is the blockable LDM version. His fireball is done with a kick instead of punch, no air fireball. He has great chains, and is a beast at stunning. He DOES have kaiser wave, but its super only, has slow startup, and is pretty easy to see coming. He has rugal’s reflect move, and I think thats basically it. Adel is the weakest character in the game, has a very high jump, and extremely fast.
Actually, I know every character (To some degree) in CvS2, I make it a thing to play everyone and learn something from them all. I picked the name because Japan’s depiction of pro-american Terry is amusing, and my Dhalsim pic was being stupid.
Thanks Hyperhal, Adel seems a promising character and I’ll give him a go, though I dislike the Genocide Cutter being special only, limits it’s anti-air usefullness. The kick fireball sounds cool, though I think it’s only a cosmetic difference. Kaiser Wave was one of those moves I had trouble with, and as a special I don’t see it being really worth it.
Hes extremely good if you know how to use him, its just that he takes hit WORSE than a little girl. But yeah, tick throw setups with god press special is so top tier.
Let Azagtoth come in and teach Adel… I’d recommend searching up on the FAQs and other things about this game so that you make sure you dont touch upon something that someone has already touched based on before.
Sounds good, I’ll start making weekly runs to PZ and see how I fair. Thanks for the info and I’ll post results once I get some games in.
Yeah because there is now substantial info in this thread and the first thread to help you get started…
Adel needs to be leader to be truly effective. Without the threat of the LDM, he can not handle hardcore rushdown well.
Df A on an airborne opponent seems to make them juggleable. Either qcf D or fireball super works.
Man you need to show up more at the tournies for SJSU or fairfield tilt and then you’ll understand why L. Terry’s a beast, Tyram proofed it.
heh yeah i know terry is good in kofxi. i was just fuckin around with him.
hes has some sick tag in combos with his 3 hit motw chain. dunno how it really works since i haven’t experiment around with him but hes certainly better than his cvs2 incarnation. at least 2x better.