Well the speed of the game is faster…and Kyo has gotten different properties in this game…plus almost everyone feels different…because of the controls +speed…
Plus he has is a combination of Kusanagi and a mesh of NESTS Kyo…with the fireballs…and others…so in essence this is a very different Kyo…
Iori needs some sort of makeover in this game as well…its been the same old since 95…
You guys have to help me. I’m sick of hearing my friends tell me that Athena’s LDM makes her broken. They specially complain about the situation where both players only have one character left, one of them being Athena (leader), because they say that it’s impossible to win because you can’t jump on her and such.
Please share some strategies or tips or anything so I can show them and make them stop complaining.
^ Stop playing scrubs? lol
speak for yourself. U always gimme stories about players who whore 1 move on u.
But dont worry about it. If they say ur broken, piss em off more and use Shion or Gato. Then we will see who’s broken
Funny you should mention that, I haven’t played the guy me and my buddies call “lol uppercut” in a while.
In other news: I found out that you do Gai’s chains by just holding the stick in a praticular direction and not “tapping” it like in SSB or Angel’s moves.
hahahaha
didn’t everyone agree that Athena is bottom-tier? The LDM is like the only thing she has going for her anyway.
Yes that is the truth…tell them they need to find ways to get around her…
Thats all they need to do…
Athenas LDM is one of the only things she has going for her…she has other things but that is the one that easily stands out…
But you need to tell them to stop whining and start figuring out a way to get around it…
Tell them using Oswald etc could be halla worse so they need 2 stop whining and START THINKING.
I have already told them that Athena is really bad as a character and that there are ways around that, which isn’t THAT good (hell, the hit from the bird sometimes misses!). One of the guys who think that that super is too good is someone who has been playing KOF for years, and has consistantly placed top 3 on french kof2002 (and some 98) tournaments. He was the one who surprised me the most to see thinking like that.
I wish our level at kof xi was a bit higher, so the flaws of worse characters and the good things of the best characters (like Gato) could be seen more clearly.
BTW, any tips on comboing Ace after Gato’s qcfx2+P? I know that you have to wait a bit before doing the QS (otherwise Oswald ends behind the enemy), then d/f+A and then I don’t know what should I be using, qcb+A or qcb+C (I’m getting bad results with both). The corner variation seems a bit easier, I just have to stop getting dp+A because of my bad execution.
I have found out that some of the old school KOF players are not as apt to play XI and appreciate its true value at times because they are old school players…
So its like the ST/Alpha crowd in comparison to 3s…
You state clearly what the problem is in your area why this is happening…
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I wish our level at kof xi was a bit higher, so the flaws of worse characters and the good things of the best characters (like Gato) could be seen more clearly”
The level of play is minimal at best so they find the littlest things to bitch about instead of finding ways around it like hmmmm…
lets see
#1-Don’t get hit by it jumping
#2-Don’t allow yourself to get hit by the overhead tag in Quick Shift into it
#3-Block the first hit…ROLL THE SECOND
Not too difficult…if you are totally aware of all of this…
^ I remember when I used Athena for a week or two I always did Athena’s LDM on wakeup only and people ALWAYS got nailed by it LOLZ.
Hmm Has anyone tried running under the 2nd hit?
The fact is Athena sucks in XI so drop the case and move on to better less used characters. Like Kensou for example. Now I know AF and myself are not the only two that use him on a constant basis.
It’s not like Athena is like Shingo, the LDM is the only thing going for her.
Edit:
Thanks Dark Geese, I didn’t see your comment on doing the Ex Kyo corner combo faster. I had got it down, it’s not consistent but I know what I have to do.
Speaking of Oswald, I nevered even bothered to learn his Ace Trick combo nor him as a character at all… IDK he just doesn’t interest me to learn but I guess learning the combo wont hurt.
Depending you can run under Athenas LDM hit. Man I was wondering when this thread was gonna pick back up again.
Running under the second hit is good depending on spacing and where you are when she does it…
counter super/LDM against the second hit ftw!
man you know, I wish there was more to talk about with duck king. But really he’s so straight forward it’s not even funny. That’s the only thing I don’t like about him is lack of tricks.
Do you guys think this is why he’s not top tier? no tricks? Because otherwise he is completely solid, I don’t see one thing wrong with him, except for maybe lack of anti-air but you can actually anticipate a hyper hop and counter with your own HH air throw, so I don’t know, he seems pretty top tier, great batter or user for super, I keep him as an anchor just because he can fuck people up so bad.
Any thoughts on the Duck?
duck is strong…'cause is all about safe and frame advantage pressing
crA B crA is safe and leave duck in advantage position to mixup with overhead (slow sadly) crA slide grab DM sweeps or low Bs into knee assault
crossup with air roll then combo from low A
another chara that lack on defense but can be deadly during pressing
what’s the purpose of aerial balloon suit move?
Trickery.
Duck is so fun. Cr. A or B into chain or leaping knee ALL DAY. The only thing that sucks about him is his lack of an anti-air + any real defensive options in general, he is only offense. His roll kinda sucks too…
Cam: Mindfuck and Mixup tactics.