KOF XI Thread :: Ver 2.0

[AYO]

Whew…okay so I got another confirmation from Amazon today. They said they were sorry and that the game shipped and will be here today. After work I’ll check if I get it and post on here, though I doubt Gamestop would have it today. Either way it’s good news, so fingers crossed people.

[Dark_Geese]

The Damned…I just wanna see what makes her legit…I aint gonna dismiss anything…

I just wanna see it thats all…I learnt from travelling to different countries to NEVER dismiss something until you have seen it LIVE yourself…

[Return_of_Shiki]

Whips’s A/B normals have been slowed down since KOF 2003 which hurt her a lot, but in KOF XI they made her C/Ds a lot faster but somewhat weaker.

She’s not good, but she still has some stuff. Mainly a good crossup Air C and an LDM with near-instant activation and healthy invincibility.

EDIT: Never mind, I found it:

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[Iczer_one]

To be honest, that wasn’t a very good Whip showoff :<

This is a great Whip tutorial, showing off her few strengths but also how limited her arsenal is: [media=youtube]Ak7ybp5PVOY"]Part 1 [URL=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDfRQjCbFVs”[/media]

What makes Whip the worst character imo:

• her ground stuff is easy to roll and quite unsafe in general with only few exceptions, which makes you resort to jumping around a lot, her jumpins are hard to follow up for damage because of her range issue, strong anti airs = strong anti-Whip
• her tagout potential is below average, after f A x3 the opponent is pushed away very far, making it harder to follow up than it should be, and the damage done by Whip herself is pitiful
• stun potential is next to nonexistent, it’s almost always a bad choice to tag Whip in for damage and/or stun

Imo Whip is best played as a battery, as a user or even anchor she becomes a handicap, and her LDM really isn’t worth it (damage scaling hurts it way too bad, and the hitbox/range is too small to make it useful). Her only worthwhile super combo is …

• (close!) C/c.C (best after a well placed crossup j.C), f A x3 (hope the opponent isn’t sent flying after the third) xx qcf x2 P

[Tone_1]

well the damage thing could be random because i was just doing both versions of the leader and sometimes they would do more damage. Like i would do the qcfhcb version then the qcbhcf version and the qcfhcb version would do more. Then i would do it again and the qcbhcf version would do more than the qcfhcb version.

I think the damage is lowered depending on how much life the opponent has or something.

I recall Clark’s grab doing good damage, but once I was low on life, it was lowered a lot.

[Xorcist]

I think the damage is lowered depending on how much life the opponent has or something.

I recall Clark’s grab doing good damage, but once I was low on life, it was lowered a lot.

I thought that was just the way the meter was setup in general. Meaning that bar representation isn’t your exact percentage of remaining health. So when the bar is exactly at 50%, that doesn’t mean you have 50% life. You actually have more than that. Kinda of a gradiated percentage. Someone clue me in if I’m wrong on this. Cause I’ve noticed it several times with different characters. Never fully understood it though.

[Nokato]

So is that game out here yet? I’m really tempted to just buy the import and call it day.

[System_1]

http://kingoffighters.planets.gamespy.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=40197&highlight=#40197

I have said what I wanted to say back then. Therefore I am not going to try to attempt to convince anyone here. You people are probably not going to realise it now. You guys won’t even believe me. You will also hype a lot more. You shall see in due time.

From my old post: “Leader Malin with 5 levels is pretty S tier to me too. Who needs an infinite when you really should go for that one time counter hit damage? XD”

Well, at least you had the sense to put DL on B tier. Leader or not. XD

In regards to Adel’s LDM, the Rose version has full body invincibility when it travels up to 1/4 screen length, while the other version has upper body up to 1/2 screen length.

[Dark_Geese]

Actually DL doesnt need 5 meters for insanity…just 2…but anyways mute point…already been discussed.

[Return_of_Shiki]

From Tel’s KOF XI FAQ

Damage Scaling

• Like in KOF 2003, KOFXI uses a damage scaling system. This works in two
  ways:

1. Moves’ damage are scaled in combos. This means using a special move or DM
   in a combo will have it do less damage than using it standalone. The
   damage scaling has been refined from 2k3, and single-hit (L)DMs now do
   respectable amounts of damage in combos. Multi-hit moves were previously
   very resistant to damage scaling: this has been corrected somewhat. Do
   note that damage scaling is subjective to the move used, and not just the
   length of the combo. For example, Malin’s Mizuchi LDM does noticably less
   damage once used in combos, while Gato’s Tenryuu Retsu Kiba is fairly
   resistant to scaling.
2. All characters start taking less damage from moves once their health is
   below a certain level. They are:
   100% to 40% health remaining: Characters take 100% damage.
   39% to 15% health remaining: Characters take 75% damage.
   Below 15% health: Characters take 50% damage.
   #. Note that this is from base damage without counting in damage scaling yet.
   The final damage value is also dependant on a character’s defence level
   (see notes below). This form of scaling applies to ALL damage taken from
   hits, be it in combos or standalone, and is applicable to every attack,
   including basic throws. HOWEVER, chipping damage is not scaled at all,
   so opponent will still take full damage from blocking special moves.
   #. Also, health scaling is ignored with single-hit moves if their health
   hasn’t dropped below 40% even if the attack reduces their health to
   below 40%. For example, K’s Heat Drive will still do its full damage if
   it connected against an opponent who has 40% health. Since it does 50%
   damage on a Counter Hit, hitting an opponent who has less than 50% health
   but over 39% health will KO them instantly, bypassing the health scaling
   altogether. With multiple hit moves, while opponent’s health is above 39%
   any hit(s) will do full damage, but any subsequent hit(s) will be scaled
   accordingly once their health is below 40% or 15%.
   #. For some reason, certain moves do VERY little on bosses once their health
   drops below 15% (each hit does little more than chipping damage). This
   usually applies to attacks that do one or only a few hits, single-hit
   projectiles and command throws. Try using K’s Heat Drive or Tizoc’s Big
   Fall Griffon (either version) on a boss when they have less than 15%
   health and you’ll see what I mean. This happens regardless of whether the
   affected move hits on its own or as part of a combo.

[TheOrgy]

u gotta know what to do with her on the ground… crouching weak kick, standing “e”, when they are far crouching weak punch, if they “roll”, crouching strong punch fwd weak punch 3 times super

when they jump standing “e”

her other shit is standing weak punch, crouching strong punch, fb punch…

u dont use her other attacks on the ground… perhaps crouching strong kick sometimes…

to jump strong kick… what short range… it has a lot and u can combo easily…

she crossups easily and many times…

to quickshift with her switch on the second fwd weak punch

or after super

[Stuart_Hayden]

buy.com or amazon for your kofxi needs.

-SH

[shoo]

i went to GS and they said maybe friday T_T

[The_Damned]

The Damned…I just wanna see what makes her legit…I aint gonna dismiss anything…

I just wanna see it thats all…I learnt from travelling to different countries to NEVER dismiss something until you have seen it LIVE yourself…

I can understand that, but, honestly, there’s nothing to see with Whip.

Medicore Elizabeth has more potential than Whip has, and even Elizabeth’s huge breasts do not help cushion the blow to my pride when it comes to saying that since Whip is pretty much still one of my favorite character designs (and probably my favorite KOF character design).

Iczer one pretty much said everything I was going to say more competently. Also, it should tell you something that the “showoff” video of Whip is usually the only video I can find of her even being used (and not straight out dying).

She needs to desperately pick up some damn speed from her brother in the next installment.

[TheOrgy]

^ dont pay them attention…

[Ouroborus]

um, whip is absolute garbage in the game.

elizabeth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whip, especially if shes leader.

[TheOrgy]

when have u seen someone that knows how to use her

have u played this game with other ppl?

actually elizabeth should be c tier, a b- like tier with leader, but who the fuck uses her as leader?

[Dark_Geese]

Actually this guy in Juarez that’s #2 in Juarez in KOFXI named Rodo uses Elizabeth Leader like ALL the time…he’s good with her though…

His team is Iori, Kula, Elizabeth (L).

[TheOrgy]

I mean seriously, when u have better leaders like oswald, duo lon

[Dark_Geese]

True I agree…but it fits his style as he beasts with his team…