Stay tuned I am redoing the whole tiers right now even what I have up there since I amdoing the whole thing from scratch.
hello dark! I usually agree with a lot of what u say but on this one i think I ll have to disagree although I have seen my fair share of nasty du lons i think he still fall way behind kyo, Vanessa, max, and may be even ralf, but then again I think I got a pretty mean kyo (but who Doesn’t)
I fail to see how K’ is in A class along with people like Kyo. I’ve played him since KOF 99 and I still don’t see what makes him so good.
Here is my revised Tier list-
KOFXI Tier Revisited- (US Version)
SS Class: Gato, Kula
S Class- Oswald, Duck King, Eiji,
A Class- Kyo, Kim, Clark, Maxima, Ralf, Jenet, K’, Ash
B Class- Gai, Duo Lon, Terry, Ryo, Shen, Malin, Kensou, Vanessa, Benimaru, Mary, Griffon, Ramon, Adel, Yuri, Kasumi, Whip, King
C Class- Elizabeth, Jyazu, Silber, Iori,
D Class- Shingo, Momoko, Athena,
E Class- Hayate
Whats up tonchipilatos!!! How u been man? Long time no see!!
Now to address some stuff- about Duo Lon I’ve seen wayyy too much in his regards in Mexico…Duo Lon Leader is just too good.…hes up there with Kyo, Ralf etc for that purpose in addition to some very nasty rushdown…if its Duo Lon without the Leader yeah…but Duo Lon with Leader is just too good…he can touch you and you die pretty much and many ways you dont even need an extra meter. Ralf and Kyo dont need super to do what they do but combine the following with Duo Lon-
- Rushdown potential comparative to Duck Kings
- Godly Genei-Jin esque LDM that ensures Touch of Death combos!
Now about K’, hes far better than any version hes been in…he is like Kyo, well balanced, can put the hurt on you and has very good overhead to low options…
Vanessa has good rushdown options…but hers are not as good as Duo Lons…
Give me a Leader Duo Lon and I fear that more than a Leader Vanessa. Duo Lon can lockdown better than Vanessa also…with or without LDM… Also its much easier to combo into LDM with Duo Lon than it is with Vanessa without QS or other things. Yes Vanessa has the infinite but she just still doesnt feel too solid overall…
The more I see of Mexican Duo Lon in person the better he gets…and the more I am convinced he has more to offer than Kyo… Duo Lons lockdown used correctly is just insanity…and cr.a 2 DEATH…very scary…plus backturned combo madness which extends things…ridiculous…
Duo Lon may not be necessarily very, very solid, but the things he does have in the right hands are too powerful to be ignored…and by the right hands I mean Duo Lon MASTERS…no amateurs…
On top of this one of the little secrets is that his level 1 Skull Super (hcbx2 p) Super is one of the best in the game…no its not totally safe, but it puts you in MAJOR BLOCKSTUN so much that you can have meter all day and if your opponent is in the middle of it they cannot CD Counter or Counter Roll out of it…they can let the controller go and take the INSANE CHIP DAMAGE. It does excellent damage by itself too and its an EXCELLENT Anti Air as well!!!
Test this…
Do the Skull super, have your opponent block, tell them let go of the controller…
THEY WILL STILL BE BLOCKING.
Ummm… where’s K’ and Ash?
Did I leave them out? K’ is at the end of A Class and Ash in B. Editing it now.
xi, delayed again? yay. :bluu:
WTF? All be damn no surprise there…Acie what do you think? Duo Lon is A Class dont you agree?
I think that duo lon is on his own class in rushdown… theres no other character that can rushdown in the way he does
in ur “tiers” list i think that vanessa, clark, yuri, adel, griffon, ramon, and whip should be in b tier, shingo mary and athena in c tier, momoko on tier d, and the only one in e tier should be hayate
did it really?
wow.
retarded.
Although, maybe not, cause even though the street date says the 13th, GS/EB don’t put out new releases till the day after street date.
So, just check tomorrow.
Plus, there are american copies of XI all over ebay now.
So, who knows.
And amazon is retarded, so NGBC probably did get pushed back till December-ish.
And lastly; damn you geese for revising the XI tiers, now I have to rethink my team. I hate you. 
Oh well, gives me an excuse to use Duo Lon now.
Duo-Lon(L)/Gato/Iori, yes?
-SH
left out clark too
Dammit I did leave out Clark…let me put him in A Class…
It is time for the tiers to be revisited…
And yes I agree with The Orgy…Duo Lon has a rushdown of his OWN…hes on his own level…
**Stuart- **Duo Lon takes work though keep that in mind…but when you get it down boy does it ever feel good!!
:lovin:
And King as well.
DG: your DL team is your main KOF XI team?
I am wondering though TheOrgy what does Whip have of value? With Athena its the LDM but with Whip hers the gunshot?
Still revising the tier list.
Oh king, king should be in b tier too… jump e, combos beginning with weak punch that hurt
have u played whip in 2002 dg? have u seen someone that uses her well? she has all the stuff she has in 2002, but instead of using her super gr fb punch as an option to anti air, she doesnt have it, thats all
whip is another one of those characters that the chinese dont use, and the latin americans found her use
crouching strong punch, long range pokes, jump strong kick, jump e, dunno if its still in but invincible standing e, and gr kick
in fact i think that its easier to combo with her now
Dumb question.
I play Gato in MOTW, and I know he is missing moves in the KOF games. I want to know what makes Gato so beastly in these KOF games. I have yet to invest lots of time in the newer KOF games, so any info is appreciated.
Hmmmm Okay interesting,
I just thought she (Whip) was hella slower in KOFXI compared to KOF 2002 plus the fact that she has less priority…correct me if I am wrong.
I will reveal my main team in KOFXI (my backup team ready)
-KULA, GATO, DUO LON (L).
My first team I use in KOFXI is Kula, Kyo, Gato (L).
What makes Gato so beastly? I got it archived let me get it for you…
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=4421500&postcount=21
I didnt notice any less priority, all that of less priority comes from the fact that her super lost its great priority
shes like billy in 2002
I think “some” of her weak attacks are slower but i think it doesnt affect her
If Duck and Eiji are ‘S’ Class, I think you’d have to put Clark up there too. He definitely belongs in A if not higher.
With Duo Lon’s level 1 super, you’re talking about Absolute Guard. Most games have this other than SF3 Series to my knowledge. I think you’re over hyping the super itself too. If they’re coming in from above, the anti-air option doesn’t work, and if you try to wakeup with it, you’ll lose your level without a super flash and be counter hit. Unless the other guy is in the corner they should be able to counter roll backwards and be safe.
On wakeup Cajunstrike is right though about DL’s level 1 super…you cant use it like that because it can be snuffed out without a doubt.
I also wonder about Clark…I personally believe he belongs in A class if not higher without a doubt…I agree with Cajunstrike here.
In order to use Skull Super as an Anti Air with Duo Lon, you have to anticipate it coming…you cant use it straight up…so it has to be anticipated to be effective make no mistake about it…
Also I’ve never seen anyone counter roll Level 1 Duo Lons super at all if they are right in the middle of it…if they are **ON THE EDGES **yes they can do that…
Then again this also presents another advantage…they have to be on the edges and have METER…