KOF 2002 UM: To Ban or not to Ban Vote Now!

So yeah, if you are going to ban someone, ban all the unlockables. Otherwise, allow every single character. That should be the end of it.

Well… All you folks forgetting something. Why not let the man run his show and run your own tourney with your rule on other time. I don’t agree with knowingly letting broken stuff happen in tourney, but that doesn’t mean that is only way to go. The point is to have SNK scene expand anyway, right?

Best post in the thread…as I said before…if you dont like it that much…feel free to go run your own tournament with your own rules…

No one’s stopping you…I certainly aint…I’d much rather you do that than come in here and try to make your dick bigger by trolling like Mystic… (And that trolling is making the situation and future ass beating he’s gonna receive worse for him)

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I checked out the matches on youtube, it becomes more clear for sure. Hey how is the alternate Mr.Karate and shin Kyo?

Shin Kyo doesnt stand out to me as great… Mr. Karate really isnt Mr. Karate…hes just 2000 Takuma…havent messed around with him yet.

-DG

@DG- Thanks for the feedback, ah well I’m a casual player so when I play with my buds I’ll try to overcome the urge of using Krizalid ;_;
Seriously, PS3/360 ver. for English should be DLC with updates.

Damn, I had high hopes for shin Kyo…sigh with Mr.Karate being garbage.

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On topic:It seems like the unlockables seem pretty bland. Mind if I ask WHO the unlockables are exactly? Just assuming the original 2k2 cast is there, But are some of the 2k/2k1 cast locked?

I can already see Terry and Kyo-1 being top tier.

-Geese/N.Geese
-Clone Zero
-Original Zero
-Igniz
-EX Robert
-EX Takuma
-EX Kensou
-Goenitz
-Krizalid
-Omega Rugal

I think that’s it.
Everyone else is available from the start.

Kyo-1’s problem is he doesnt have a reliable anti air…remember his moves are split between him and Kyo-2…its harder to combo into that 50% than you might think…

Finishing uploading the last 2 sets now…

-DG

How you do it is You got to slide input the HP LP, i dont know the exact frames you have to do this, i can hardly do it but then i’m playing on pad, the difference is it’s unblockable, it also starts super fast maybe even faster than og 2k2

somebody said about kyo 1 being top, i thought this at first but he’s got a couple of big holes in his game, no anti air (or no decent ones) as stated by others before me
But his other big hole is that your foe is crouching it’s very hard to land something that is damaging dp k misses crouchers, oh yeah his cross ups are quite hard to land also, i love kyo 1 i used him back in 99 but he’s not perfect.
Something you need to play with is his HP qcf x2 hp which is unblockable, at this moment i aint got nobody to try things with, how easy is it to set it up, playing around in the corner jump lk standing hp then that super, i know it wont connect because of the start up but how easy is it to get out of? it’s still pretty fast

Quick question; who is Shin Kyo?Is that a reference to Kusanagi or is it an EX form of Kyo that you hold select on Kyo to pick?

Shin means TRUE. Shin Kyo is the real Kyo in 2k2. The white coat Kyo since all the others are clones.

Some things I’m finding out about Goenitz on Day Two:
(He definately is getting better)

I’m testing Goenitz’s Jump/Hop CD right now…its very good…but not unbeatable…Nameless has beaten it with a few of his normals…

List of things that beat or trade with Goenitz’s Hop CD: (Continuously updated)
-Daimons St.C and df+c
-Names St.CD (beats)
-Kyo’s DP
-Shingos qcf+a
-Chois dp+k

Other good things about Goenitz:
-His p super is a good anti air…comes out very fast.
-cr.a2xc rekkas builds very good meter.

I agree and this is the only post of value in the thread

But option 3 is pretty much a runaway right now… And really right now the only question in the game is…GOENITZ…

We’ve narrowed it down to just him whether he should be banned or not…

-DG

Ok then, Ban the unlockables. That way if you dont have a mem card, You can still have the majority of characters. Just dont allow kyo/kyo/kyo teams and whatnot. This aint 99.

DG: I understand why the polls are that way but I think it’s just quicker to agree on what’s in the game out of the box than what you have to slave away at in singleplayer mode to get. Or tool around with memory cards at tournaments as dandyj said. The game has enough variety as it is, for what it’s worth.

SFIV and KoF2002UM might seem like viable comparisons in this respect but really we know chars like Rose and Gen aren’t SNK bosses. Cool that Geese isn’t totally broken, though.

If it comes down to it I’d rather see the chars SNK deliberately balanced by playmore pan out tier-wise before we start considering characters that are obviously not even playtested, even if they turn out to be low tier. Bull shit like ultimate match Krauser is really the type of situation I’d like to avoid, not dumb people picking Omegal Rugal.

I understand…and I’m trying to avoid the ruckus that the SF4 issue brought up…so I’m playtesting all the characters myself…and right now the only person that is the true question right now is Goenitz…he’s better on day 2 right now…and me and Gual are probably gonna play some more Sunday and I am gonna focus on Goenitz like I did Geese.

Me and Jhun on CX.com think that regular Geese is the best playable character in the game right now. (But not broken, Jhun could see him dominating jap/chinese tournaments due to his pokes alone and how fast his fb is)

Also to unlock Geese and Goenitz all you gotta do is beat them in Endless…same with the EX characters (Kensou, Robert, Takuma)

-DG