KOF 2002 UM: To Ban or not to Ban Vote Now!

DG, no offense but fuck the arcade standard; ban who needs to be banned (unless this is the arcade standard lol), and this is coming from the guy who really really hopes the Krizalid doesn’t become banned :frowning:
…and enjoy playing the game.
…and post lots of vids. :3

In console 98UM, only arcade-playable characters were allowed in Challenge mode – no O. Rugal, Goenitz, Orochi, O. Iori or O. Leona. What characters are allowed in 02UM’s Challenge mode? (Serious question – I don’t have the game yet to check…)

yet again you dont answer a direct question that requires you to think. that is a situational combo, you new players really have to try stepping back and looking at the meter requirements for a setup/combo before freaking out.

:rofl: You’re kidding me right? Because everyone just always has 5 stocks in 2k2 all the time.
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Oh noes… more 100% combos. We should ban these characters too.:rolleyes:

Okay after playing against Gualberto some more matches (Uploading 24 matches):

Regular Geese and Goenitz DO NOT need to be banned…they are perfectly fine.
Krizalid is too broken without question= BAN.
Igniz is broken without question=BAN.
Omega Rugal= Genocide Cutter is god like, Kaiser wave is too damn fast, but you CAN ROLL IN BETWEEN it=BAN.
Original Zero needs to be banned, Strikers come out too fast Rons equals instant guard crush :wtf: plus he has what makes Clone Zero broken-
Clone Zero- His invincible Fart Special is what really breaks Clone Zero…this is really broken…not even a super like Young Geeses Deadly Rave…it pretty much stops everything in its path…

Also I believe Jhun is top tier…still think Geese is top tier…but not broken at all…Gualberto agress…vids coming to testify this…

We played like 12 sets of matches…

Also NM Geese is leagues better than regular Geese…dont look at the combo videos etc guys…watch my vids and see how Geese is a perfectly fine regular tournament character…I played Geese like every match.

Oh yeah Mystic if you reading this- For everytime you talk shyt I’m raising the bar on the minimum amount I will accept as a money match: Right now its at $100…

Keep talking and it keeps rising… :rofl:

Goenitz is like O. Shermie…Like I say guys…the fact that you can roll his tornadoes in this game HURTS him…

-DG

Ban whoever needs to be banned, like Krizalid, N. Geese and maybe Igniz

sadly, Geese has so much BS that this is just a small sample of what he can do.

You sure Geese is perfectly fine, I dunno man he just seems…a bit to far above the cast to be simply top tier.

the fact that you even posted that video as trying to justify a banning disqualifies your opinion from here on out

cry more

But you’re missing the point…he’s legal by far…I just played with him nearly every match in 24 matches…so I feel like I have a much better idea of what I’m talking about with him…and surely with the other bosses as I played a good deal with them too…

Krizalid is sickeningly broken…more so than Igniz I’d argue… Gualberto cringed everytime I picked Krizalid…

Also, whoever said you can’t do cr.bx2, st.bxxDp+C with Kula is FULL OF SHIT. She can combo that combo just like always… :sweat:

-DG

Ill take ur word for it, u have a good take on SNK games in general so if ur certain Gesse doesnt have anything overly Godly then Ill take ur word for it…he still scary as hell though.

Yeah but dont believe the hype…hes strong and top tier yes…but all those comboes and shit you see are for show…its rare you are gonna have that amount of meter even with Geese…he doesnt build meter like the Bannable five…its good and better than most…but dude trust me…its not that easy with Geese…TRUST ME…

After all you can only have a maximum of 3 bars if none of your characters have died…remember that…

So possibly if Geese is your last character he becomes “that deadly”.

But not against someone remotely competent…

-DG

I dont think you should ban anybody yet besies obvious people

we need tourney results to determine whos broken and whos not
its one of the first so you should just wait and see

Well I hope you don’t mind if I do question; granted Igniz has an infinite but assuming you ban/softban it, what other stuff does he have that make him overpowered?
With Krizalid is his sideswitching move unblockable?
Can he be hit out of it easily?
Can he also be easily hit out of his supers?
Does he recover quickly after his HALLUCINATION?

Might want to elaborate more on this, I can understand if O Rugal is banned, but if you can dodge his Kaiser Wave, wouldn’t that give you a chance to counter back?

…but do these lead to infinites, unblockables or an offensive that is impossible to counter back?

What about jumping attacks? Can it be blocked?

Well I’ve been playing it and with these boss characters and there are some obvious ones believe you me…

Igniz has very very fast pokes…and even if I cap the reps…he fills meter insanely fast off even a blocked chain. So great meter, plus great pokes, an infinite, a really good SDM (blocked is pretty safe) all this equals banned.

Krizalids com grab is not unblockable…but very few things beat it…you jump in the air…you get grabbed…very few things beat it…and since he builds super godlike…that=free p super…Its wayyyyyyyyyyyy too overpowering. Check my youtube vids…they are being uploaded now. he can be hit out of his supers…but if you play him like I described its like Young Geese in NeoWavex5…Jump eat the com grab then lose 30% health from supers and block a qcf+a and give me nearly 2 bars of meter.

O. Rugal- You can dodge Kaiser Wave but you can only punish it if you are next to him…from a far its hard to punish him…and dont try to do anything for fear of eating a Kaiser Wave…jump and Genocide Cutter WILL WIN…he can even land from a D Genocide Cutter and do ANOTHER ONE… Hcb+b and D are VERY VERY GOOD…

Its impossible to counter Igniz’s infinite if I land it…It ended the match with me and Gualberto you will see soon…50+ hits…nothing he could do about it…

Clone Zero- Jumping attacks lose too…its an unblockable grab… very little beats it at all… Roll even and GET GRABBED.

-DG

I’m just gonna wait for some Japanese or Chinese tournys and see who are tourny legal.

Small, dumb question: How do you do Ryo’s second MAX2, and what’s the real difference with the first?

Thanks for the info, I’m gonna check ur page for the matches and I suggest everyone else do the same. I may have overacted to gesse it seems,but its still in my humble opinion that he will be classified as S to possibly even S+ tier.

S+ is designated for Nightmare Geese, Krizalid and Igniz.

I’d put Geese in A+ right now. Meaning tentative Tier:

S+/God Tier: Nightmare Geese,Krizalid, Igniz (In that order)

S-: Original Zero, Omega Rugal, Clone Zero

A+: Geese, Jhun

This is IMO as of now…

-DG