Indeed, not right to deny the EX characters for players. I personally take 99 Kensou anyday.
I know what Shin means, I’m just so used to the word referring to boss characters and such that I thought they had some sort of super Kyo in this game for some weird reason. Why not just refer to Kyo as Kyo?I mean, there’s Kyo-1, Kyo-2, and Kusanagi, so I just don’t really see a reason to refer to the original Kyo as Shin Kyo…
Most people do call him Kyo. I call him Kyo. I refer to the other Kyo’s as their actual names. Kyo-1/KUSANAGI etc.
It’s just that since they all can be called Kyo some people call the real Kyo Shin Kyo to prevent confusion.
Ah, I gotcha, I gotcha.Nah, I just thought you were irritated in your prior post and I must have misinterpreted.Damned internet talkin’. =P
Anyways, I still think more testing should be done before anyone pulls the banhammer out, I mean Igniz and the other NEST boss characters seem pretty obvious to ban, but there may be some not so obvious reasons not to ban them, like maybe they have a really bad matchup against other top-tier characters in the game, I dunno.
But still, for individual tournaments, it is always the organizer’s call as to what to ban
and what not to ban.And even if the bosses are banned, there’s always casuals.
Gouken & Seth sure seemed like SNK bosses to some people, though, and in Seth’s case we even had evidence in the form of an earlier build where he was legitimately broken. Funny how that one turned out…
They also take longer to unlock than Geese/Goenitz/EX chars. And don’t forget SC4, where you have to pay $5 for Yoda/Vader since they’re both tourney legal in many areas now. As such, I’m not really convinced by that argument.
I always favor allowing whatever isn’t horribly broken, especially nowadays where arcade standard isn’t nearly as important, and I don’t see why this needs to be any special exception.
Thanks for the input Josh… :china: As you see that option of yours is winning…
Guys something else good with Geese I found out (regular)…
Guaranteed OTG Grab after a successful C regular throw…
GUARANTEED…you cannot tech it…so its guaranteed RB like…
Also Yuris 100% vs. Chang still works:
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DG:If you have time, do u think u can test out Shin Kyo and Mr.Karate some more…I dont wanna lose hope on them lol.
I’ve tested out S.Kyo already…his best bet is his combo into the 2002 super and other than that he seems the same as he was in 2002…nothing to write home about…middle of the road…
2000 Takuma I will test today sure.
Thanks dude, damn shame they didnt take more liberties with Kyo…guess hes basically worst then his normal self, sigh.
Well I’m finding more stuff about Kyo-2…and he may have the upperhand overall over Kyo-1.
Kyo-2 can combo cr.b,cr.a to Final Showdown (qcfx2+p) ala 98 Kyo…
And he has a reliable anti air…so he may be better than both Kyo-1 and Shin Kyo. Plus he (Kyo-2) has that funky air combo- Jump/Super Jump BxxDown+c.
Well Kyo has always been a fairly high tier character, I don’t even recall him slipping below mid-high in most games. If Kyo 2 has all the proper 98 combos mixed in with some 02 flair, its good enough for me…although I do wish he had his massive juggle potential from NGBC heh.
Wish they would put in Mr. Karate from SvC.
Is Kusanagi in this game? I might decide to main him as well. He always use to save my ass back in the day when Ramon wasn’t cutting the mustard.
i dun kno if it was in he had it in OG 2k2 but his qcf+a has autoguard again. His 182 shiki makes is absurdly easy to connect from simple pokes, so he’s gotten a nice little buff
Yes he’s in and hes gotten a buff in being able to cancel df+d…ala Kyo in NeoWave and XI. More new Kyo-2 stuff:
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Goenitz EDIT: Another episode of “To ban or not to ban”, This time Goenitz edition…as yeah hes incredibly strong…possibly the fastest character in KOF history:
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About Goenitz, I am now worried if he may be better than regular Geese even with the latest stuff I’ve uncovered:
-Can wavedash (Yes thats right)
-Can run away faster than Choi
-Good priority on normals
-Really doesnt need tornadoes
-cr.ax2 links into rekkas.
-Good supers
-Teleport is INVINCIBLE
-Hop CD is very good
-Does Good damage
Good things about Geese:
-With 4/5 bars of meter he can kill you
-Good normals/good priority
-Bnbs: cr.ax5 st.b, or cr.ax3 st.b, st.c f+b into whatever.
-Does good damage
So see more priorities right now go to Goenitz…and after you see that vid you just may agree with me…
Also here’s the Special Battle with Omega Rugal intro ONLY:
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And I believe in order to fight the Special Battle with Omega Rugal the requirements have to be similar somewhat to:
-Don’t lose a match (I didnt lose a round)
-Beat the Final Stage Boss on the first try
-Dont meet any of the other requirements for Goenitz or Geese Special Battles…
-DG
Nice work, I’m gonna main Kyo 2 for sure along with Mr.Karate assuming he is any good.
This should be an easy one…
Were they a boss in a game? - It the answer is “Yes” then ban them.
Goenitz teleport was invincible on startup in SVC yet he wasnt a high tier character, no need to ban IMO
Ok, then ban Geese 
Maybe you could soft-ban some bosses like C.Zero or Krizalid. Just like, forbid their supers.
NESTS Bosses meter gain on block is unbalanced good and on hit for certain moves is good as well. Nothing else about them makes them rediculous other than obscene meter gain.
Guess you would have to ban Yamazaki, Billy and Ryo as well then