KOF 2002 UM: To Ban or not to Ban Vote Now!

Evo would vote to ban anyone.

If you want a serious tourney, then ban every boss in the entire game. Since I haven’t played 2002 UM yet, can someone confirm whether or not these bosses are direct ports of the bonus chars on the ps2 kof 2002? If they happen to be, they are broken as shit and rightfully should be banned.

You know what will happen when someone familiar with the series see’s Geese and Goenitz on someones team? They will laugh and enter a different tourney.

I completely agree, your heart is in the right place here… I see these boss characters as just bonus’s. Not meant for a legitimate game.

Dude are you fucking kidding me, why are you considering this? Please just do us a favor and don’t run a tourney at all if this is the direction you’re gonna go.

You know what… Fuck it, this whole thread is bullshit. They should be banned without a second thought, leave the game as the original KOF 2002 was with the new standard KOF characters. Doing something outside of this idea will make the game a piece of shit in tourney environment and not worth watching. to top off my annoyance I just voted incorrectly. I vote to keep only standard cast if this event HAS to go down.

Hardly, I just happen to be very objective with my conclusions and look at it from all possible angles.

A lot of the time, boss characters are more just fan service…like Gill from 3s. They are usually intended for casulas but not legitimate tournament situations.

I’m just saying I got two sides of people on the Igniz story. I feel he should be banned period…all it is to it and until someone can give me legitimate evidence to counter that, that is what it is gonna be. I’m on different forums too you know…

and many say Geese and Goenitz are not that bad…and some are even saying Clone Zero isn’t that bad either…

So right now esp with the votes seeing how they are swaying the way of “Ban who is uber broken, don’t ban who isnt”,

It is leaning towards leaving Geese and Goenitz in the game.

Also about those people that “would laugh at Geese and Goenitz in the game”…

Apparently you dont know how I’m running my SNK Major(s) dude…

KOF 2002 OG is the biggest game… this game won’t be as big as that…its more like a side game major to 2002 OG…now if it turns out to top 2002 great…but we don’t think it will…

We think most are gonna play 2002 Neo Geo more…after all…2002 Neo Geo (on this game arcade perfect) is our ace in the hole…

So your whole POV on this is incorrect…

-DG

Yeah its always a bit of a mess, what are you leaning towards right now?

Banning all Bosses but Geese and Goenitz…

Clone Zero needs further testing…he could go either way…but me and Gualberto play today (in like 1-2 hours) so that’ll help iron out things…plus this poll is open for a while…so things could change a week or so from then…and esp it could change when I finish uploading matches from Ciudad Juarez, Mexico…

-DG

Gesse still seems somewhat overpowered, but yeah maybe him and Geonits arent so bad compared to the rest of the guys. Perhaps excluding all the unlockable characters minues those 2 would be enough?

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: Dont get me wrong, As a mexican I think I have more of a fan background to surpass yours so I support you holding up the SNK scene. But as to pretty much running it? Nah…That doesnt exist. Much like the scene. You’d be better off starting a scene in mexico. You shouldnt make the rules, Find people who have placed top in tournaments decide that. The way you’re taking this, It seems like the smash backroom I heard about.

goenitz is ok in this game? idk im not gonna bother to unlock him so ill have to see a vid or soemthing. if hes no better than normal geese then thats fine. i thought he was always broke just cuz of tornados

wtf about geese seems OP? a bnb off close c that does 40% (everyone can do that) and a combo that uses 5 stocks, requires red life and does 80% (lots of characters can do more than that with less meter).

Also, This just proves your stupidity. It seriously shouldnt even be debated, Igniz, The guy with a one button infinite in a fuckin game. ARE YOU SERIOUS? Dude has more infinites than wolverine(I think atleast) And you’re debating whether to let him in? Please close this shit and let people who have a fuckin brain decide who should be banned.

IMO, I feel the same way as you guys with letting the original characters in. But have the other characters been proven to be broken? The way I see it, Just ban the boss characters, Or anyone who’s overpowered to hell…I wanted to play as kasumi :frowning:

Heres my vid of him…I’m gonna use him tonite…but he seems okay to me…like Geese.

He’s straight up SVC…and because you had to use meter to roll in SVC…that benefited Goenitz’s style of play.

However in this game because you can roll without meter…that doesnt benefit his style of play…

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Okay once again you are proving to me why you are on ignore…if you bothered to read my followup post…I said I feel he should be banned…

I even made a youtube video some of you clearly havent bothered to look at in the first post :sweat: (God some people are just plain lazy!!)…Saying “Igniz gets the ban hammer”

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So once again you are proving YOUR stupidity and reinforcing why I have you on ignore…

To me Igniz is banned unless someone comes up with a VERY VERY strong argument why he should not be banned. Now have a good day, your posts have a pattern of starting out talking shit like you somebody or something…then lightening up and actually talking about something relevant…

That doesnt work with me…Goodbye…

-DG

Lol. It shouldnt have even been thought up. Its igniz…Srsly? You had to think twice on that? Hell on any of the bosses? Just let people play the game how they want. Ever thought of that? Or do you want to feel like a dictator and set rules for games you have no authority whatsoever. I wish I could have played you back when I was in fort worth, I would have put your ass in its place.

Why can’t you just show up and get whooped in Phoenix? It’s closer to California isn’t it?? (Most of the Cali peeps are actually coming as are people from TJ and Central America…tell Morelia to show up too :rofl: ) But we’ve been down this road before havent we…

Run away all you want…:rofl:

If you wanna show up post in my Phoenix tournament thread if not I’m done talking to you.

I’ll MM you $50 in KOFXI… and $50 in KOF NeoWave…I may even MM you in this game :rofl:

-DG

His kaiser wave is broken, you cannot jump it you cannot roll it, it comes out instantly it reaches the other side of the screen almost instantly who else in the game has that? NOBODY THAT’S WHO
His genocide cutter in completly invinceable it will never trade never get stuffed out it will beat everything, the lk version is almost unpunishable, who else has a move like that in 2k2? NOBODY
HCB+lk safe leads to big damage

The only other characters that wll be able to get close are the nest bosses. and thats becuase they have just as much bullshit, all of them including c zero, they all hold an advantage over the regular cast

Have you even used him?
Have you even played the game?

the only real issue is geese and goenitz

I agree…the only true issue right now is Geese and Goenitz…Clone Zero is a maybe…

Banning characters that ‘need’ to be banned is easier said than done. I’d give more input on that but too bad I don’t even have the game. ):

Yeah I love Igniz - but lets get real… not banning him would just be a delusional fantasy.

Krizzy, C. Zero and O. Rugal are all definitely worthy of a ban to be honest.

I haven’t unlocked Geese, Goenitz, Igniz or O. Zero yet but…

Krizzy is so over the top it’s amazing. qcf+A might be one of the best moves ever. But you’ve already figured out a lot his bullshit.
C. Zero has insane pokes, everything guard crushes after chipping like 5%. Basically you’ll end up cheesing people with Far B>cancel to anything you want for 5%+reset back to far B.
O. Rugal has insane zoning still, uppercut is still retarded safe on block and juggles on top of being invincible. Basically he is a slightly toned down version of O. Rugal. Which is Still O. Rugal.

Basically all the Bosses I’ve unlocked don’t really reward good play at all. And just kinda retard cheesy set ups and retarded corner pressure.

Need to try Geese and Goenitz I guess. Cause I’m figuring O. Zero and Igniz will be more of the same crap.

I’m just tempted to ban all unlockables like most games do and call it good.