KKZ Reset Question

Ok.

So basically I’m trying to do this little combo.
LK Tatsu > Jab to Reset > KKZ.

I can’t for the life of me get the KKZ to hit my opponent while still airborne in the reset. So I’m guessing there’s something I don’t know about this combo.

Any tricky way to buffer the KKZ or something?
Any help would be much appreciated.

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theres a long thread from about a year and a half ago about this, but it basically amounts to doing the following.

:qcb:+:lk:, :d:, :lp:, :d:, :d:, :3p:

aka, input one of your downs before the lp

I only use two Punch (like Ex moves) to activate KKZ. I don’t know why but it really multiplies my success rate…
Same thing for teleport…

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=116797

Perhaps there’s something in there that’ll help if what’s been already stated doesn’t.

Actually, it’s much easier to do it like this :qcb:+:lk:, :lp:+:d:,:d:, :d:, :3p:

^ I’m gonna disagree with that. Whenever I would try the three downs after the jab, my success rate was probably 1% so I never bothered with it in game. After doing the first down before the lp the difference was so phenomenal it became a major part of my game - since you’re basically landing something more damaging than a demon from a simple cr.mk…

For some reason I can’t do it as well as I used to :xeye:

thats the method i use :wonder:

here’s few vids me doin it ages ago…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry9d2sID8UY

I’m a beast at these and I just do them by hitting down 3x after the jab.

I’m playing on pad though. :lovin:
I generally use the analog stick but when I go for the KKZ i just mash down 3x super fast on the d-pad.

three downs as fast as possibe for, but I use a p360 so I think its a bit easier. I think JR Rodriguez explained a simpler way of doing it but I still have’nt managed to get it down.

To each his own, I just explained the method I and other people I know have had most success with.

JR’s method is as follows.

:d:+:mk:, :qcb:+:lk:, :lp:, :d:, :3p:

I have no idea how this works, but I’ve seen him do it. I think he must be unintentionally buffering down motions while doing the combo leading up to the jab reset, but I really don’t know, just know it does work, somehow. :confused:

JR’s method is like doing it as slow as possible. It counts the down for the mk, the down in the qcb, and the last down as the 3 needed.

I just do 3 hella fast downs after the jab. Basically you gotta do it fast enough to “cancel” the jab. Not really a cancel, but you get the idea.

I do the downs after the lp and i get it almost 100%, just do it faster, the downs can be kinda mashed.

uh yeah on pad…i still havent been able to do it :confused:

Yeah, you’re fucked. Buy a stick.

Not trying to be an ass, but damn. That shits gonna be very hard to learn on a pad.

Edit: If you haven’t already you may wanna try setting like L2 to Punchx3. That way you eliminate the possibility of missing the multi-punches. (Assuming Punchx3 works consistently as a mapped button).

I can’t do it on pad, but this isn’t like a demon where you are pressing a lot of different buttons almost at the same time. I can see a pad not hindering you too much. For stick users, one thing that helps me execution is not pulling the stick all the way down. It doesn’t need to hit the edge to hit the switch.

i have PPP on R2 and i think wats holding me back is the time it takes to press the arrow down

When I do it this way nothing comes out. MAME’s input display shows that my input is correct. Am I pressing the down before lp too early?
When I do the three downs after the lp it comes out but by that time they have almost landed, and it’ll say either 9, 5 or 4 hit super art.

i guess your not pressing down fast enough.

You were right… I can do it on keyboard after about 10 minutes of trying, just can’t hit the downs fast enough on pad. :sad:

has anyone figured out a nice way to do dash kkz without requiring insane speed? Most of my dexterity and articulation in stick control is in the right hand i.e. button presses. Dash kkz would mean f,f,d,d,d + ppp incredibly fast which I cannot seem to do.

I tried messing with df,f,d,d+ppp but the few times it did come out I’m not sure if its cos I found a hack or I just mashed it out.

Any help would be appreciated :tup: