So you did! This is what I get for browsing in short, alt+tabbed spurts at work.
Yep!
VS and Practice modes FTW!
Uh, I’m fully supporting the game and enjoying alot, but I’ll be damned if not following PJ’s parade suddenly equates to whining.
And the people who continue to negate the REAL point of extras that I (and others) have brought up keep throwing their own opinion into the matter like the other 98% of the market should follow suit. Let’s not forget that we are the barely noteable minority here.
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I swear people dont have common sense anymore
imo this game would’ve been better off called “KOF REBIRTH or KOF HD” than “KOF XII” because it’s hardly up to the main series standard 
And it’s cool that some of you guys are having fun and stuff but some of us here don’t have that luxury :tdown:
Just my 2 cents with all this:
I must say that SNK, With KOFXII took one BIG step forward and then 2 steps back.
Obviously, the BIG step is the visual overhaul. Also, it’s Pixel art, So obviously there will be jags and barely any straight lines, I wouldn’t call it “inferior” art per-se, but in a visual standpoint in comparison to BB’s art. It doesn’t appeal to the masses as easily. It’s like comparing hand coloured art to CG coloured art. They are both great ways of colouring, but CG appeals more to the masses.
Another is the gameplay changes. It’s great that they actually retuned certain people, Iori and Ralph are examples, They play really differently but things keep them from being a completely different character, so it balances. I accept with open arms the new gameplay elements, they are smart additions. Though some should be retouched IMO, An example would be the defense counter, I would suggest be given more options rather than a push back hit that cannot be modified or followed up. Also the CC is great but I bet it will feel inconsistent or unreliable as this game evolves, A way I actually thought about is fusing it within the defense counter, for instance you can manually activate the critical counter gauge and it’ll activate either within a C counter or through a successful Defense Counter. So it’ll become more consistant, Then obviously tone the dmg down due to consistancy.
Now for the 2 steps back.
Sadly, SNK released this game like any other of thier pre-XI releases: Barebones. The only one I actually saw with much effort was XI, I thought it was a hint for future releases that content will be as packed as that. I never knew RE-BIRTHing means reverting back to the old days of good AND BAD. They brought back thier barebones attitude and then some. Taking out BNB modes and then taking out little things like a boss, special openings, normal openings. They don’t realize that taking out the BNB modes and then taking out the little things will escalate the little things into a equal problem like the BNB modes, causing more problems. The product is not worth $60, Even if gameplay is intact and as tuned as ever. $60 for a fighting game is always a questionable decision, Sadly and realisticly, Fighting games are always stacked against RPG’s, FPS’s, Sports games etc. Paying $60 for an RPG will rack more hours than paying $60 for a fighting game. That’s why EXTRA’s are added. It’s for the sake of giving you bang for your buck. People say BB’s story mode is simplistic and annoying. At least it’s fleshed out, it wasn’t rushed at all and it’s like an extra 15-20 hours of ur time, and I enjoyed it. Fighting system in itself is acceptable for hardcore fans, but not casual fans, they need something to do rather than just play online, which itself is faulty. Casual fans are the chunk of your profits and the chunk of your word of mouth.The casual’s what makes you start. The hardcore players is what makes you continue.
SNK needs to look at this globally rather than locally. The Japan Market was fine with thier barebones content, SNK got used to that and continued so forth with it. Globally on the other hand, you need to add bells and whistles because that market is more concerned about thier purchases and longtivity of that purchase, but SNK hasn’t really got it right yet, or even, at all. For sure it’s a rebirth of the franchise, but clearly it isn’t a rebirth of the company. That in itself will hinder KOF’s rebirth and KOFXII’s uprising into the global arena, If it continues to be like this, in NA or anywhere else, you’ll still have to refer KOF to newcomers as being called a “Famous fighting game in competition with SF in JAPAN” as you always have, Rather than “KOF is in competition with SF in THE WORLD”, Which I would pray one day I can say.
KOF has evolved. In order to continue momentum, even though it has already been hindered. SNK needs to evolve. If it never evolves, KOF will never have a worthy REBIRTH and global appreciation it rightfully deserves.
KOFXII is a great game though, I throughly enjoy it, though I do feel it’s unfinished.
sorry for the block of text x_x
~DarkDeath
THIS is a fanboi thread if i ever had to encounter an example of one, hardly anybody mentioned the games short-comings and there quite a few past online lag fests. As a non-fan boi of any game, the gameplay mechanics of this game have alot more depth then i would have ever ever given this game credit for, i prefer this over streetfighters special move spam fest anyday of the year. Yes the animation looks good, but please dont compare it to blazblue, because balzblue looks way fuckin better then kof12. It does not have jaggy egdes at all, unlike every fighter on kof12 when the camera is zoomed. In terms of the animation…i have to give it to blazblue again because out there 12 characters the amount of animation given to them equals the amount of animation in those 22 characters of kof. Less moves means less animation point blank(kof12). Blazblue has more attacks, they have intros unlike kof, they have more then one winning pose unlike kof, they havin falling animation unlike kof does, they have taunts unlike kof does…simply put blazblue is better then this game on every possible point you can speak of execpt character numbers. But blaz makes up for that with more moves between characters then kof, and also no head swaps like kof.
For those who bash blazblue, i have friends like you, more then likely you are not able to comprehend a fast-paced game with alot more possiblities and depth then your average fighter, though becuz blazblue has air combos, off the ground mechanics, double jumps, air dashing,a very very high learning curve and mastery system,12 complete unique play styled characters(kof fighters can be used the game way in some cases), and bursts doesnt neccesarily mean that its better then kof. But its definitley doesnt make it worst then kof which i read in sooo many post on this thread, hardly anyone compared it to streetfighter iv where u cant really do to much of shit but cross-up. OUt of all the next gen fighters kof12 and balzblue present a very different but balanced and intelligent stlye of fighting game play. while streetfighter is pretty dam basic. BUt in terms of a finished product and overall presentation of the game blazblue and streetfighter iv have alot more to offer, so when asking the question is kof12 really that good…the answer is no the game in general isnt very good but the is the gameplay good? yes it is simply genious.
I could give a flying fuck about 2% of the market. When it comes down to it this is a fighting game. All that matters is Vs, Practice and Online modes. Ill admit SNKP dropped the ball on the netcode but thats about it. Everything is is just a sugar coat that I or anyone thats serious about fighting games can give a flying fuck about. So lets not talk about clearing out ear wax, when was the last time you played the arcade mode in SF4?
You’re a fucking idiot, no one said the the game looks better on a HDTV than a CRT. If you play the game at the arcade the game will look better since its playing on a CRT. Regardless, the graphics are beautiful for those that enjoy Pixel art like myself. If you dont thats fine but dont feed your tripe to others as if its law.
Your smug attitude as if you are better than everyone else around here is annoying. Your opinion isnt above anyone else. No one is saying the the game is perfect. This thread was created to appreciate the greatness of this product and not that bad things. There are other threads for that. If you cant appreciate what this game has to offer than thats your problem not mine.
There is no fanboy bubble here at all. Im a true Street Fighter Capcom fan. Ive played KOF games in the past but never took them serious. This game has made me more of a KOF fan than any KOF game before it and that stands for a lot.
Your problem is that you cant accept those opinions that differ from your own. You have to bring out the personal attack wagon to defend yourself. Just shows the level of character you are when everyone was being civil. Well no more, stop whining you little bitch, if the game is that fucking horrible trade it in and STFU. Your post in this sub-forum wouldnt be missed.
You will if KOF13 doesn’t come lol
Ill still have KOF12.
man when people start calling people idiot this and idiot that kinda makes them look like they are a tad bit to emotional invested in all this. Alot of effeminate passion being worn on sequined sleeves in this Liberace ass thread
now if you look on the back of the KOF XII box you can see that 1080i is listed as one of the HD resolutions. Now here’s the thing only native 1080i TVs are HD driect veiw CRTS and HD CRT Rear Projection TVs like the Hitachi 51F59.
No no no, you got it wrong.
You’re the 2% of the market, and they shouldn’t give a flying fuck about you. You are not what’s going to bring them the business to allow to better further revisions, sequels, and proper marketing.
There you go retreating back into your bubble.
At the end of the day, yeah, the real meat of a fighting game is that it plays well on its own, against others locally, and online. We already know this, but we are that 2%. If we want this game to go past our inner circle and to get other people into it THIS IS NOT GOING TO CUT IT. You don’t seem to get that not addressing this portion of the market is a gigantic mistake that could hurt them (it already is apparently) in the future, no matter how well the game plays for us.
What do you mean that’s it? You write it off like it’s nothing. That’s easily the BIGGEST fuck up that goes across the board. Sure, schmucks like us are fine that the game plays well, and don’t give a shit about extras, but we care about online for competition if we don’t have it locally, right? The casual gamers aren’t going to really care how it plays, they’ll just want to play online because that’s the only damn option the game has going for it. So on BOTH accounts they fucked up. Not good man, not good at all.
Ok forget ear wax, you’ve got a beehive or some shit in there now. Damn.
I never said anyone said that shit, it’s what I immediately noticed within the hour I purchased the game. With the visual overhaul it’s not something I was expecting in this day and age, hence why I said it was ass backwards.
That’s not a good thing.
It is straight up ass backwards to release a game in this day and age and have it look better with technology that became obsolete over half a decade ago. Really think about what that means about your product for a second.
This thread sounds like little more then a parade of insecurity, sorry. Even the SF4 forum didn’t have a counterpart thread of this manner back in Feburary even when the hordes were bitching and moaning about Ultras and the like. Good job.
lol
Ease up there guy. You can keep running your parade and ignore the fact that I am enjoying the game. Hell, I’m going to a tournament for it this weekend too.
March on~
i feel that the rant was uncalled bro, i know that it could be tiring to hear only complaints of something that you like and enjoy, yet you have to admit that chibi has a point, we, the fighting games fans can overcome the lack of options, if the gameplay is solid and fun, as you said we only need the vs mode, training, and online, yet with the lack of a good online, and the lack of single player options the casuals would overlook this game specially with the bad reviews and that in this days everyone is a 3d whore 
The SNK community tends to get butthurt easily. Just enjoy the game and try to get it to Evo.
That will do KOF more good in the US then anything anyone would do here.
If it makes Evo next year, I make my first trip to Evo.
Wish I could do FR as well, but finances/vacation time won’t allow.
I wouldnt of went there if Chibi would of kept it civil. He always has to personally attack someone that doesnt share his opinion.
Im far from butthurt, This thread was made to appreciate the good things found in this game. You wanna bitch about the game.
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=201209&page=17
You can go here and have a ball. Im not even going to reply to chibi anymore, since its just going to drag this thread down and take it off topic even more. Some posters just dont get it.
This thread was unnecessary from the get go buddy, don’t go fooling yourself into thinking otherwise. Hit up blogs like kotaku, joystiq, destructoid, etc to spread the good word, not this circle jerk shit. I’m already hype for my local tourney, it’ll be a good indication to where it stands with everyone.
You are more butthurt than anyone I have ever come across in these forums. :lol:
If you dont like the thread, then dont post in it. Its that simple.
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Actually I refuse to take part in the ignorance.
I’ll just say that in 1080p, Filter 3 looks hawt.
oh the ironing