I can relate to that actually. Sf4 was a game I could never get, despite being a top calibur BB and Smash player.
KI is somewhere in-between, but I like the game a lot so I’m willing to put in the time.
I did pretty well against DJ and a big chunk of my screw ups was robotically trying to break every heavy (and getting counter broken)… Which is my own damned fault. I wasn’t using the chief either.
@Rik, I would also say you should play other good players besides Jin (@FlyiingVe I still need to play you…too lazy, I haven’t even played with the update yet) as each player will show you new habits that you grow from when you play one person. I know you do have to do certain things against Jin in order to win and you learn his habits but when you play another person, they will show you other things that you haven’t even thought that you did. I know that because when I play some people’s Thunder, I do different things than when I play Rico Suave’s Thunder (which I should be doing to those other Thunders). Habits and tendencies play a huge part in this game.
ShinPaulo has a good Thunder, his style is similar to Rico’s.
Oh yeah for sure I need some variety and honestly I only play good players randomly through ranked. One of the reasons I levelled up so easily in SF4 and in 3s was because I was only running sets with good players and very rarely fought randoms.
Good competition will obviously make good players…it’s the reason I could never get good at KOF. With that said feel free to add me guys and send invites whenever you can I need the practice.
I hate ranked…
I’ve been told my Thunder is very patient. I’m running something like an 75% win rate with the chief, so I’m doing something right. I really need more tech with him though, I’m pretty much playing only fundementals.
I really hate thunder…he’s one of those modern speedy grapplers which is always scary lol.
My jago is inconsistent partly because I’m not a shoto guy excluding 3s. I actually mained fei both in sf4 and st and unfortunately there is no one like him in KI.
Jago is kind of a tribute to 3S Ken and SFIV Akuma. They purposely gave him 3S c.MK and Akuma s.HK as a tribute to those games. You can c.LKx2 into combo just like 3S also. Although that probably scales the KV pretty high, you can do it just to be old school lol.
The only reason you lost to me Rik was just inexperience with the game and specifically fighting Glacius. You got hit by a lot of shatters that you could have avoided. You also need to hurry up and figure out how to break his ranged auto doubles as they’re pretty easy to read. You can also look for patterns in the linkers since he only has one linker from that range.
Losing is the key to getting better. I lost 13 times in a row to Rico’s Thunder and only beat his Sabrewulf like 3 times out of 15 matches. Gotta eat that humble pie sometimes to level up. Look at Xian. Won Evo, can’t win a match against Daigo. Always a new challenge.
That’s why I like exihibition matches.
They give you time to learn and adapt. Ranked is just “on to the next gimmick”.
Though there are merits to that too.
Exactly.
Ranked matches are sort of like tournament matches cause you need to adapt instantly but at the same time it’s easy to fall for gimmicks. I prefer sets like I’m sure most people do because it actually helps you become a stronger player.
I agree Jin and ultimately my resolve now is to improve…it will require me to understand the mechanics a lot better but luckily this game isn’t crazy with the learning curve. I remember fighting rico in SF4 and getting my ass raped cause i had no idea how to fo fight abel but eventually I learned. I also did chuckle a bit when I say jago’s MK and sadiras stance…must be some 3s fans on DH heh.
Anyways ill be on tonight so if anyone wants a set shoot me a invite.
It’s good to have practice in both. Ranked is like playing at a Japanese tournament or at an arcade. You just have to be able to adapt very quickly to keep on the sticks. It forces you to play more wild or “random” than you would in a long set, but it shows something when you can be consistent without much knowledge of the opponent’s playstyle.
Long sets are good because it allows you to pick out smaller things in the matchup and the player over a long period of time.
In ranked people will try gimmicks to get a lead on your early. Doing stuff like landing the first hit, then going into an obvious counter break setup right after by hiding it with a HP auto double. You go to break it because if the opponent is bad they don’t know how to counter break and that’s just a free breaker. Then of course you get counter broken and are down half life 5 seconds in. Ranked is good for helping you break those bad habits that you’ll unfortunately pull out when it counts in a tournament if you don’t think about it immediately at that time. You only get 2/3 in tournament and doing that one big mistake that you forget about in a long set will cost you at a major.
I remember how tournament matches always had that air of unpredictability…sometimes I was more worried about the unknown guys then I was against the top players cause I knew what to expect with them.
With SF4 it got to the point that I pretty much knew all the tricks people had with characters so levelling up was easy even when using Dan. Since this game has a small roster though I’m sure figurng out all the gimmicks won’t be a long process.
On a unrelated note is there any word on how spinal will play?
Is he a shoto type?
All that has been said is that he will have a fireball a teleport and he will be very annoying.
Hmmm I wonder if he will still have his clone move.
On yeah I forgot to mention our connection was ice smooth. I was a bit worried considering all the reports about unexpected lag after the patch.
can’t get the patch. did anyone else have this issue?
I’ve noticed its player specific. The original guy who made a complaint about the lag on the DH forums I played against last night and of course it was lagging halfway into the set. Then I played a bunch of people in ranked and another guy in a long set from Kansas without any issues.
Nope, worked for me.
I have had no change in lag since the patch.
And that is close to zero.
Max vs FilthieRich from a couple days ago
Lol they love their jump ins online. Won a few last night with nothing but Jago low fierce. They just got right up and jumped in again. Like clockwork lol.
That being said I do think some jump set ups are viable in this game because of how much less damage you get for being AA’d vs. how much you can do if you land a jump in.
Oh there is a shit storm of nerf threads incoming…
My main fear is balance.
In my experience, post release characters never get the same level of balancing and testing as core characters. The balance in this game is very good, I’d hate to screw it up.
On the note of balance, my current thoughts:
Top:
Sadira, thunder, sabrewulf
Almost top:
Orchid, glacius, Jago