Kill... Kill... Kill Them All! The New Decapre General Thread

[AkaratsChampion]

Man gief is destroying me

My main sparring partner mains Gief. It’s a really rough matchup, but manageable. Your pokes beat his pokes, especially your st. :mk: , which will stuff most of his attempts to poke back. When Gief has no bars you can poke with impunity. One trick I like is charging focus to level 2, hitting his block with it, then dashing forward and neutral jumping. He whiffs spd, I jumping :hp: to full combo. He tries to lariat, jumping :hp: beats it clean if spaced right, and I convert to full combo.

The real trouble with this match is when Gief has meter. Ex Green Hands can stuff your pokes, and a lot of your scramble options. Once Gief has meter, it really comes down to poking much more carefully, and waiting for/ baiting the Ex Green Hands. If you bait it and block it, you can :lp: > :lp: > :mp: > whatever you want, for good damage. You can probably punish harder, I just haven’t extensively tested punishing it yet.

Don’t jump, beating Lariat with jumping :hp: is nigh impossible.
Don’t get too cute with scramble.
Mixups are sweet but if he guesses right you eat too much damage. Risk =/= Reward.
Don’t flub ex scramble > break xx ultra 2. If you accidentally j. :hk: Gief resets in time to U1 as he hits the ground, and there’s nothing you can do about it.
Once you have U2 he can’t lariat. Hit him with U2 until he learns that.
Once you have U2 he can’t whiff spd. Hit him with U2 until he learns that.
Edit: And please, please be careful with scramble mixups when they have meter. Ex Green Hands beats Ex divekick, ex ground pound, jump ins, and all this other shit :c

Thats really nice!

Can you copy/paste that into the matchup thread, please?

[noosetester]

Backthrow safe jump (5f)
Regular wake up: Forward dash, neutral jump hp (credits to nickdekline)
Delayed wake up: Forward dash, cr.lp, neutral jump hp

I’m assuming you can add cr.lp to any hard knockdown safejump setup to do a delayed wakeup version of the same setup

[Mike_Robertson]

dont know how you guys feel but i am finding it hard to crack people playing neutral without bar. i just lame it out til I can react to something and only follow up if I end up in a good situation. best knockdown situations seem to be sweep and razor’s edge. basically if you aren’t right on top of them its not really ideal. throw is ok but it puts them a little far unless its in the corner so gives them too much time to react to scramble shennanigans. rapid dagger i guess is same unless they are in the corner i tend to just chill. AA stinger is actually pretty good once you learn the timing + spacing. i need to learn my other buttons though.

[Nobus3r1]

I keep seeing everyone say how crucial it is to learn and use lp hands but I never see or play anyone that uses it.

Same reason you see online honda/blanka spamming ball and headbutts instead of jab elec and jab hands.

Really? I see plenty of online Honda and Blanka players who utilize hands and electricity respectively. So much so and so consistently that I’d bet money that they’re probably just using turbo to do so. I mean they’re obviously still spamming balls and headbutts plenty which makes it all the more suspicious that they’re somehow miraculously good at this one semi-advanced technique.

[AkaratsChampion]

dont know how you guys feel but i am finding it hard to crack people playing neutral without bar. i just lame it out til I can react to something and only follow up if I end up in a good situation. best knockdown situations seem to be sweep and razor’s edge. basically if you aren’t right on top of them its not really ideal. throw is ok but it puts them a little far unless its in the corner so gives them too much time to react to scramble shennanigans. rapid dagger i guess is same unless they are in the corner i tend to just chill. AA stinger is actually pretty good once you learn the timing + spacing. i need to learn my other buttons though.

Her overhead can be used to start mixups high/low.

[Phantom_Angel]

dont know how you guys feel but i am finding it hard to crack people playing neutral without bar. i just lame it out til I can react to something and only follow up if I end up in a good situation. best knockdown situations seem to be sweep and razor’s edge. basically if you aren’t right on top of them its not really ideal. throw is ok but it puts them a little far unless its in the corner so gives them too much time to react to scramble shennanigans. rapid dagger i guess is same unless they are in the corner i tend to just chill. AA stinger is actually pretty good once you learn the timing + spacing. i need to learn my other buttons though.

Her overhead can be used to start mixups high/low.

Her overhead is absolute ass. I don’t know if it’s a distance thing, but I can never apply pressure after it because I get thrown or poked. It feels like it’s -64 on hit lol.

[Veserius]

I don’t like using overhead in neutral much because while it moves her forward it’s pretty vulnerable to lows. Neutral i just look to build a bar or something to whiff punish, then i can turtle a bit. Why go in when she builds meter full screen so well?

[Malvadisco]

I keep seeing everyone say how crucial it is to learn and use lp hands but I never see or play anyone that uses it.

Same reason you see online honda/blanka spamming ball and headbutts instead of jab elec and jab hands.

Really? I see plenty of online Honda and Blanka players who utilize hands and electricity respectively. So much so and so consistently that I’d bet money that they’re probably just using turbo to do so. I mean they’re obviously still spamming balls and headbutts plenty which makes it all the more suspicious that they’re somehow miraculously good at this one semi-advanced technique.

because most of the ppl you are seeing are not charge specialist, most dont even use piano/slide to anything really. Is recently week one, give it time

[AkaratsChampion]

dont know how you guys feel but i am finding it hard to crack people playing neutral without bar. i just lame it out til I can react to something and only follow up if I end up in a good situation. best knockdown situations seem to be sweep and razor’s edge. basically if you aren’t right on top of them its not really ideal. throw is ok but it puts them a little far unless its in the corner so gives them too much time to react to scramble shennanigans. rapid dagger i guess is same unless they are in the corner i tend to just chill. AA stinger is actually pretty good once you learn the timing + spacing. i need to learn my other buttons though.

Her overhead can be used to start mixups high/low.

Her overhead is absolute ass. I don’t know if it’s a distance thing, but I can never apply pressure after it because I get thrown or poked. It feels like it’s -64 on hit lol.

There are betters of course, but I can’t use it here and there to some success.

[noosetester]

i like airborne overheads for checking crouchtech timing. is that garbage overhead even airborne?

[Qwark]

Anyone know a place to find her frame data and what her most + divekick is off of mk scramble?

[Phantom_Angel]

Anyone know a place to find her frame data and what her most + divekick is off of mk scramble?

Check the OP…

[Malvadisco]

are you using max range overhead? because that shit is very good, point blank overhead are always a stupid idea to begin with

[Phantom_Angel]

are you using max range overhead? because that shit is very good, point blank overhead are always a stupid idea to begin with

It moves her forward, so it’s point blank sometimes. Gotta try hitting with her shin and not her knee/thigh.

[Malvadisco]

that´s what im saying, learn the ranges

[Ryg]

Can somebody test if her hands can make low shorts whiff? I saw a match between a guy and a decapre, and im pretty sure i saw the guy’s low short whiff against lp hands. And unfortunately i cant test it myself as im a PC player

[Veserius]

why did you make the matchup thread if you can’t verify stuff @_@

[Malvadisco]

he is level 1 afterall (?)

[Trapy]

i like her overhead, it has longer range than most overheads in the game, goes over lows, good speed and can be comboed after under specific circumstances

its not a braindead overhead option like elena’s one but it’s definitely not crappy compared to the other characters who don’t have tha same range or don’t even have one

[noosetester]

DCM (either version) 5f safejump

hold uf, late j.hk, like half of all her other safejumps