Ken General Thread: Go with the Flow

Donkey kick could have many interesting uses if implemented. It could knock his opponent far away, allowing him to continue zoning in peace. It could cause wall bounce by the corner allowing devastating combo follow ups. It could be a nice combo ender due to its long range. It could cause a ton of chip damage.

Anyways this is the Ken thread, discussion of Donkey should be in the Ryu discussion.

Donkey kick (outside of EX) was the best way to get damage either as an extended “poke” beyond Ryu’s normal range, and faster than fireball, also it could hit crouching players when combo’d into. But it was unsafe on block, and would have to retain that drawback to be balanced in SF5. And it seems like most characters so far could punish you hard even without a super stocked. So yeah doesn’t seem like there’d be much point to it since Ryu’s MK tatsu hits crouching now.

Donkey kick does look kewl though.

Did the Ken thread really turn into a donkey kick discussion?

I hope Ken gets the donkey kick.

Just to spite all the Ryu players.

I wouldn’t mind Dash Cancel coming back as an extension of Ryu’s V-Trigger. FADC in SFIV was almost made for Ryu it felt like, so seeing that return for him would be cool.

So he has gone all El Fuerte now? Makes him too flashy. I don´t like that and it makes me respect Ken less as a character. Outfit & hairstyle looks good though, find out recently that his hair is dyed?! Why?! Let him have the same color as his eyebrows.

Ken is in V-trigger for pretty much the whole trailer. Some V-triggers are suppose to make you flashy. He’s pretty normal when not in V-trigger.

We can add this one
Max (Ken) vs Ryu
Nice 15 hit combo and good finish towards the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLZfJql07Gw

I think Ryu is fine the way he is. He’s meant to be a very basic character which players entering the series can use with relative ease. I wouldn’t mind the donkey kick, but it’s not a deal breaker if they don’t implement it. I DO think he needs a little bit of a wardrobe change though. Something similar to gouken like this…

I like the beard. The rest not so much…

According to Max, tatsu can cross up if done correctly. Good shit.

Nao that mein nxgger Ken is back

Maximilian does a great breakdown of Ken plus some new gameplay.

That was a great breakdown of Ken from Max. Thanks for sharing because I’d forgotten to check his channel. He of all people will be thrilled with the way Ken is in this game.

Need to add him to the list of players that feel Ryu is now underwhelming.

Agreed. A very simple addition like that beard would be more than enough if they kept everything else the same.

I really want to see some clarification on his V-Skill and Fake Kick command normal. I want to know if you have to press MP+MK again during his V-Skill run to get his step kick or if it’s an automatic thing. We also don’t have consistent info on whether step into over head and fake is done with f+RH or f+Forward.

I’m wondering that as well, I’d really dislike if it was another MP+MK input after the run starts, it’d just be awkward on my hands. I’d prefer a F+MK or something during the run.

According to max’s video, ftk and ttk (fake/true thunder kick f+hp) works the same way as sf3/sf4. If you hold hp, you do the fake to; and if you tap it, you do the true tk.

I could be wrong, but in one of the clips shown in max’s breakdown, ex tatsu was shown to crossup. Only 1 hit connected and Ken was pretty close to Ryu before he jumped and did it.

First time I ever wanted to play Ken.

So I wonder if that means Ken can kara moves using fake thunder kick like in sf3\4?

Well not of right now. Several people attempted Kara Moves to no success.