because its not a cultural norm and we arent used to seeing stuff like that?
i dont see why people are getting offended that its not somones cup of tea - i stated many times i was fine with him/her doing whatever they wanted(it is america after all) but that doesnt make it any less weird to those of us who arent exposed to it very much
just to make sure i got this right… everyone in this forum who says they would hook up with kayo is either gay or bi right???
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Would any one of said people being heterosexual blow your mind or something?
If you admit that your reaction is entirely based on a lack of exposure, then I would say the more logical approach would be to try to overcome it. I mean, I’m sure there was a time when people were “weirded out” by interracial couples too (heck, I’m sure this is still common in some rural areas). The task is to acknowledge the bias and overcome it, not proudly spew that you find it creepy. The later approach only serves to further the bias.
We didn’t learn about transgender people in my high school either. This is like Inception to me.
considering they know that there is a dick under his pants, it would.
Gay people are interested in men who look like men. Not in women. Wanting to tap something that looks like a woman on the surface is not gay and is the natural reaction of a non gay person.
Not even gonna lie, i’ve hooked up with traps(not the really obvious ones) before, and I don’t feel attracted to men at all. Problem?
Here’s one to ruin your shit: I’m straight, I just have a slight homosex crush on Kayo, I guess. She’s attractive. I wouldn’t really call myself bi, though, since I can’t say that for any other man. It probably helps that she looks pretty close to a woman to begin with.
A lot of straight guys knowingly drop the massive WOULD because there’s no way to make them follow on it. Akin to the “I’d go gay for Solid Snake” joke, but one iota within the realm of possibility.
well the question would be that. did you know that they were traps before or after? and obviously its not hetero due to the fact that its not a guy (if you knew beforehand, and by hook up you mean had sex with). but i would say that would be closer to liking a certian type of guy (similar to being attracted to a certian race, body type, etc). so even if you dont like the traditional type of guy, that doesnt mean you dont like guys
I’d call it a problem if you’ve been trapped more than once.
I knew after, though i’m not really sure I would have minded if I knew before, being pretty drunk and all. I probably would.
But regardless the thing here is, you’ve been socialized and brought up to respond in a certain manner to certain looks. Even if you’re not gay, when a person who looks exactly like a girl(and better than some girls too) is a guy, it is only natural to respond in the way you were brought up to respond to someone who looks that way.
Knowing that she’s a guy puts a mental obstacle which you have to overcome or not and is all up to you. It doesn’t make you gay at all. You could argue that she’s a woman in people’s heads, and that you’re the one who chooses to see her as male or female.
Would you hook up with a girl who looked exactly like arnold schwarznegger? She looks like a girl but you see her as a guy right? Reverse that and you get what people feel about Kayo.
Also take into account this is the internets, i’m pretty sure many people who say the wouldn’t mind would freak the hell out and back the fuck off when it comes to doing the deed and they see a dick. Seeing is believing as they say
It depends on how you define sexuality. Is it attraction to a gender (dress/speech/mannerisms)? Or is it attraction to particular organs? Clearly, almost all straight guys expect or want the women they find attractive to have vaginas. However, that doesn’t mean that anything with a vagina is going to be attractive. Similarly, if I told a straight guy that a prominent/attractive celebrity like Ryan Gosling or Chris Evans had a vagina–is that going to remotely increase his desire or ability to be attracted to him? Likely not. Because regardless of what is in his pants he still looks and acts like a man, and that is not something that straight men find attractive. The same is true in reverse when it comes to someone like Kayo. Being a guy and attracted to Kayo is way, way closer to the heterosexual side of the spectrum than it is to the “gay” side of the spectrum.
did I see a camera crew following kayo? wonder what that’s for.
I saw someone mention the olympics… as far as a wimminz only tournament at evo, I think after one year of hrt, any advantage of being born male disappear
It’s probably for a feature that’ll run in Japan chronicling her adventures at Evo 2011. She is an idol over there, after all.
yep some pretty good responses past couple page.
but it also needs to be said that not everything needs to have strict labels associated to them. how about some people are straight, not at all attracted to generally masculine features, and would mess around with “traps”. if people stopped trying to fit others and especially themselves into strict guidelines of only a couple labels it would make it easier for them and it might make them actually happier themselves (maybe they’ll want to experiment or something.).
and yeah, being attracted to kayo would prob be more on the hetero side than the homo side. there are a lot of different variables to consider when it comes to how the actual organs will be handled.
Maybe its because i dont like girls who wear alot of makeup. and thats all kayo is, just a “girl” with alot of makeup. at the end of the day when all of that is off, its just a tall, skinny, pale, japanese man who makes his voice higher. thats at least what i see after i figured out the trap.
-fyi i never thought she was attractive anyways
I love how all of this tired non-debate over which pronoun to use is coming down to whether you’d bone her for some of you people. I’m not going to begrudge someone a few mistakes since not the entire world is super-educated on every LGBT issue and it takes time to come around on these things, but when you out-and-out deny someone’s identity because sexual desire would “complicate things,” that’s just going too far. It’s transphobia because you feel you’re the one who gets to decide whether someone else’s identity is legitimate and it’s misogyny because you feel like you can evaluate someone based on how bad you want to get with them. Hell, I guess it’s misandry too. Deplorable.
I’m 26, so maybe things have changed (I doubt it), but growing up in the American south I learned
not a damn thing
about anything related to LGBT issues.
I don’t think it was particularly high in the public consciousness (nationally) during the late 90’s/early 00’s, though. For all I knew, anyway. I started being more exposed to the issues/their existence at my university.
BTW, your and Qrazy’s posts have been good reads-- thanks!
K guys I found this thread but I’m still looking for the thread on how homophobic & transphobic people are whack and not date/sex worthy because they’re annoying as fuck.