You know what’s sad?? Kayo was the finest chick in the venue by far…and she was a man… How does that make every other “real” chick in there feel? 
Would totally smash Kayo/Kara… Just sayin…
That was a really good attempt at reading my post, but you kinda missed the point entirely. Physical is sex, and, as you’ve pointed out, Kayo’s sex is male. However, gender (which is what you use to determine what you call someone in a polite society) doesn’t use ‘male’ or ‘female’, only ‘masculine’ and ‘feminine’. Your sex can be male and your gender feminine, and if that’s true, you call them ‘she’ or ‘her’ or whatever the context demands.
Neither of you can win an argument on the internet. You’ve both made your statements and should agree you disagree, then move on. Thread’s about Kayo’s cosplaying and adventures at EVO.
I completely understand where you’re coming from and it does make sense. However, male and female are not SOLELY limited to the scope of biology, the two terms also completely apply to social and cultural gender identity and not at all just for transgendereds. It’s partially a problem with the English language - there aren’t really any terms to distinguish between the two, whereas other cultures do have terms for it, such as Hijra for India or Two-Spirit for native americans.
Because of this, it’s best to call transgendered people what they ask to be called, instead of imposing onto them what may be an insult to their identity.
I just don’t get why this argument keeps coming up. Stuff like this is part of the sex ed curriculum in Australia, surely it can’t be so different in America?
man im with you on that 
we need more beleviers >_<
white socks ftw !
LOL 2011 srk
Your fundamental misunderstanding is that you are refusing to acknowledge the difference between sex and gender which is and has been used by the medical/psych communities for well over 50 years now. That is very apparent especially when you used the phrase “biological components of a woman”. There are no biological components to being a woman. There are only biological components to being female. Being a woman is not the same thing as being a female and vice versa. One is gender, the other is sex. One relates to dress/manneurisms/speech/etc and the other relates to physical makeup. Again, if this is a legitimate area of confusion I would advise consulting Wikipedia and reading the articles on both sex and gender.
I believe this topic causes confusion because our society genders people based on sex. ie, we gender males to become men and females to become women. Different sets of dress, speech, etc, get pushed on people based on sex. They become so mentally associated that people start thinking of them as the same thing. But they’re not. Having a penis does not prevent someone from playing the gender of woman, nor does having a vagina prevent someone from playing the gender of man.
Also, it’s interesting to note that there are still tribal societies which do not gender based on sex at all. Some gender based on family heritage. Some have been even reported to gender based on hair colour (ie, if you’re from a certain family line you act/dress/speak different than those of a different family line).
I would encourage anyone to watch this clip as well – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjqsB1huDxg – it is a somewhat humourous (if not sarcastic) video made by a transsexual woman addressing a series of the most common misconceptions about what it means to be a transsexual or to be attracted to a transsexual. She addresses everything from why it’s not a good idea to use incorrect pronouns to the ever-popular “Are men attracted to transsexuals gay?” It’s worth the watch.
lol this guy is an obvious closet case
…and lol at someone thinking chromosome is a cut and dry be all end all of gender identity 
its funny how people can bash a
model/gamer
photographer/ gamer
over something like this, leave it out.
instead of bashing kara and kayo on the forums, money match them
also cheak out karas website she has a cool documentary up bout daigo
link here
http://www.karaface.com/2010/05/12/japanese-tv-station-nhks-documentary-on-daigo-umehara/
These things weren’t really mentioned when I was in High School sex ed. I took a gender studies class in college and it really opened up my eyes to this world.
Sorry yo, back when I had to go to sex ed classes this never came up and I live up in the New England area of the US. Stuff hasn’t progressed here as much as it should have.
I’m in Canada and this was also covered ad nauseum. I think the challenge in the U.S. is that religious conservatives have a lot of sensitivity around any kind of sex education which isn’t 100% related to heterosexuality or abstinence. Anything else gets pegged as “an agenda” to corrupte the souls of the youth. It’s kind of sad really. That’s why when someone spits vitriol I tend not to get upset at the person directly and instead focus on educating them. That is, of course, until they blatantly refuse to want to listen to it.
Because of his behavior with the people? That’s normal idol behavior.
What’s wrong with Kara?
i respect his right to dress up/act however he wants
its just that he is a taller lanky pale as fuck japanese dude dressing up and acting like a woman, and no matter how much of a right he has to do it, is still super weird
everytime anyone saw him the response was either: wow look at that babe dressed as c.viper, or: shudders
not saying its wrong or anything, it is just extremely cringe inducing when you know what the deal is and see it live
Why is it cringe inducing? I don’t get it. She’s clearly comfortable with herself and came out from Japan to support the FGC and came close to getting out of her pool. I find it archaic to become uncomfortable just because someone isn’t like yourself. I mean, what would you prefer? That she identify as a man, dress like one, etc, and hate very minute of it?
I have a transgendered friend, and the only time it’s awkward is when I refer to her by her male name on impulse since I’d met them before they made the transition (yes, it’s always followed by a quick apology. I’m admittedly terrible with names and often say the wrong one for all my friends). This is no different than when a girl acts tough and is “one of the guys” or when she’s excessively girly. It’s a personality type. That you’re describing how awkward it is just speaks volumes about your tolerance for people of certain walks of life.
Her behavior may be awkward to some, but that’s only because it’s typical idol fare, which we don’t have much of (that I’m privy to, that is) in the West. It’s culture shock. The height I can understand, a lot find that unusual. My family has a fair few of tall women, so I think I was desensitized to it at a young age.
Yeah, wouldn’t be surprised if they have this HUGE news story making a big deal about it if there was a sex ed class discussing this to high school students. Par for the course really in America.
It actually was a recent big news story in California, which recently passed a law requiring schools to acknowledge and cover the history of the GLBT civil rights movement (Harvey Milk, etc). There’s a rather large movement by conservative groups to have it repealed, as they consider it an attempt demoralize kids. http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2011/08/lgbt_history_bill_is_anti-fami.php