I’m not convinced that using VC to get out of this is impractical though. I’d love to help test this but I don’t have anyone to do the loop for me while I muck about with VC.
Ok I should have clarified. If you see the loop hit the opponent, you can change the button press to continue to an infinite. For example:
You’re doing 46A1C reps on a blocking opponent. Opponent thinks they can fit a 2A in before they get hit. 46A hits them, taking them into stun. Now after you do 1C, instead of doing 46A which would whiff or take you under them, you do 46B reps, which leads to the infinite. Just gotta pay attention.
The other reason VCing out of this is a risk is because it’s your only option. Karas is building meter while you do this, and both moves in the loop are super cancelable. Now, VCs are relatively easy to see if you’re looking for it. All you have to do is see it and counter super. Now assuming you have a couple of levels, if you choose to and you’re in the corner (which you probably are because you’ve been looping them), you can megacrash and continue into a combo.
So if this really works as well as it seems to and it’s rock solid, the only character that would really be able to counter this is batsu’s counter covered by an assist for safety.
counter super…
KARAAAAAAAS!
hrms one possible way would be to VC and crash. But do u build bars when u block? man this shit is so sick
MAYBE lightan might stand a chance? tho ure opponent can always pair karas with the best match up against giants and jus pwn u either way
Yah I’m a few yard away from giving up on this game and just going fully into Street Fighter 4 or something else. I can’t believe Justin Wong playtested this and the game can still be this broken lol. If Karas dominates as hard as everyone says then I’m outteee. I am not playing a game where the only viable team for tournament involves Karas, not with all the broken BS he has. I’ll wait for Sinsation videos though, I REALLY wanna see how retarded Karas is.
If only everything had a counter…but it seems like there’s really no good way around it. I’ can’t do much with testing this either since my cousin doesn’t wanna touch Karas so some of you guys should try to find out if there are openings. Like “yourmother” said we should try our best to keep this game playable. I don’t want it to fall into the ranks of Killer Instinct or Mortal Kombat where brokenness utterly rules.
Lightan and PTX are viable counters to Karas. the only problem is that your opponent can just pair Karas up with Tekkaman. D:
I say give it more testing. People were crying foul over Viewtiful Joe’s infinite voomerangs, and that turned out to be escapable.
I would really hate to break it to you man, but give up now. What Marn has is far worse than some theoretical block stun that is escapable and banks on the fact that someone is going to let you corner them with something like that. As cool as it might sound on paper this game is waay too dynamic for something like a block stun to be effective. I cant wait for sinsation that shit is gonna be straight comedy with all the people thinking they know the karas Juice
what the really shameful part about you is that if your videos from your last tourny are any indication of how you play your gutter trash and should quit the game because your concept of offense with Karas is opposite of what should be done. Flawed at best moronic for sure, you have no right talking down to people as if you know better than them especially when you know nothing. The only reason why im even commenting on it because your wrong and should be called on it. All he did was ask a question and you jumped down his throat as if he was retarded and didnt understand anything that was being said, Your pathetic.
P.S there are NO “scrubby arcades” in japan. That statement by itself makes you sound like a damn fool.
Cant wait for sinsation videos >< ! but man something more powerful?! hrms what could it be?! maybe something to do with Karas dash? or perhaps some kind of assist resetting trick to lock the person in block stun? so the [4]6A xx 1C is escapable?
I have a feeling it has something to do with his unblockable.
but didnt Morninstar made a comment about how it would boil down to the person jus blocking low? xD teh suspense is killing me speculations speculations… guess ill jus play around with Lightan till i know whats going on :3
As much as this is being hyped up, whatever he has had better be straight up game breaking shit.:looney:
I’ve been doing 46A,1C shenanigans against a couple friends for a while. I thought they’d get caught because of late timing on the attack after the pushblock… Need to play with that a little more I suppose.
Maybe it’s just me not doing it fast enough, but one guy who plays Ryu does pushblock>srk and it usually knocks me out of it. I’ve also had a couple other things trade.
we might need to update the Pros and Cons of Karas very soon
Pros:
Imba Broken Uber L33T
Cons:
cons dun exists if u cant get hit
Dude, if your going on videos of me after I had been playing for a week and saying anything to me your an idiot. The thing is no one has seen videos of you because you are a fuckin scrub.
To the people getting pissed off that I said shit to yourmother, Im sick of him calling out people in this thread and the tier thread then asking for videos of shit, that obviously means he has no clue what hes talking about. He was saying someshit in the tier thread about how he has yet to see the infinite, well if I cared to tape myself youd see me do it every match… retarded.
Finally, not every arcade is sakura inn or one of the other top arcades where god like players play. Also as far as Im concerned the player base for tvc in japan is likely very small, I have yet to see Daigo, Tokido, Bas, etc playing this game. SO YES THE ARCADE OR SCENE THAT HOMO IS PLAYING AGAINST COULD BE STRAIGHT TRASH. And Im betting they are if a 2008 join date is doing anything against them. Finally, before any of you 2007 - 2009 wannabes say shit to me, go win a fucking tourney, any tourney, even one in your own state. Whats that you cant? Scrubby.
No offense, but what tourney have you won ;o.
that con applies to any character though, lol.
Anyway, I noticed that Karas’s unblockable pulls people out of the air and sets them on the ground if it hit them while they’re jumping, similar to Casshern’s and Alex’s.
I’m thinking you might be able to do something like unblockable > low kick to combo > chain (back throw) > unblockable > repeat.
Not tested though. The back chain throw bounces them off the wall and it looks like it would give plenty of time to charge the unblockable.
Videos? I’d love to see =]
EDIT: Woah! I just read up on the past few posts. What’s with all that static? I made this thread for Karas information. Trash talk can go elsewhere if you don’t mind :arazz:
Hey guys, lets take the flame-wars to PMs and keep this informational.
I’m only asking for vids because I don’t play Karas and I haven’t seen the specific stuff you’re talking about in action. I’m sure it’s the same for alternate here. I guess I’ll wait on the sinsation ones. If somebody says there’s game-breaking stuff in here I’d like to see it so I can know if I should keep playing or not, fair?
::sigh:: your one of those people too stupid to see whats right in front of you. Consider this and keep it as food for thought. Marn has been playing this game since it came out day in and day out, his associations lie with Justin Wong, Demon Hyo, Steve H, and Joe iloveu all respected players some “toury winners” who the fuck do you roll with? yea thats what i thought. Your a small fish in a big pond that got hyped cause you placed in a bullshit tourny with a bunch of people that dont know the first thing about TVC. Bricks dont hit back bitch, im done talking if your going to sinsation bring your wallet and we can play first to 5 for 50 dollars otherwise keep your nonsense and infinite to yourself. No one here cares…