Kaimana RGB LED Board thread, RGB animations and more! SRK Tech Talk 2013 Product of the Year!

[D4B5]

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So two questions, let’s get the first one out the way.

I’m a bullshit walking disaster factory and managed to snap the USB port off of my Kaimana Mini. Clean break. I think I can resolder it.

… But those are tiny goddamned leads on a surface mount part. I also don’t own a resolder flow oven or really feel comfortable trying to reflow the connector back on. I’ll do it if it’s necessary though.

What other options do I have for programming this thing? I see there’s a six pin header, but there’s no documentation about … really anything that isn’t in this thread. It looks like that can be used with an ICSP from what I can tell from earlier in this thread. Is this true? What’s the pin orientation? Do we have any sort of Wiki with any of this information? The forum search engine is awful when you’re looking for nitpicky technical details.

Second, I picked up an RGB LED from Paradise as part of this whole enterprise, and an RGB LED adapter. Now the product description says that it needs resistors, but I thought the adapter had resistors? Do I need to go lower to hit 3.3v or something? Again, none of this is documented. I really think we could benefit from a Wiki or something.

I have also broke one and my buddy has broken 2 out of the 3 he has had to purchase.

if you purchased from paradise shoot them an email i managed to do the same thing and they helped.

So my solution is to run another neutrik usb to usb B adapters with the mini constantly hooked up to never have to remove the cable again cost an extra like 20 bucks for everything but i wont have to worry about the mini usb breaking again.

[armi0024]

We are looking at these, we have been unplugging and plugging the cables in and haven’t had the same issues in house. I’m not sure why. The micro usb are surface mount soldered onto the board, so they are not constructed to be used like a cell phone charger. The statement made by Ben about the number of times it needs to be plugged and unplugged is not accurate, and not based on anything aside from his desire to try and help out with tickets.

I will dig into these again this weekend. We did set up 6 set ups at Combo Breaker, plugged and unplugged many times without issue in sticks, but I will do some testing and if someone has boards they need replaced let me know. The 6 pin is an icsp, we did not offer documentation because there was no intent on needing that connection. However programmers are super cheap if you want to use that option.

In regards to the parts. Before the video was complete we were including everything for the basic kit whether ordered or not. @kuniku hit me with a pm and I will see, I’m pretty sure we can send one first class.

[Taiki]

if you purchased from paradise shoot them an email i managed to do the same thing and they helped.

thanks! I’ll email them. I’ll just make sure when I reprogram, I’ll just unplug everything and not let this happen again.

[Taiki]

We are looking at these, we have been unplugging and plugging the cables in and haven’t had the same issues in house. I’m not sure why. The micro usb are surface mount soldered onto the board, so they are not constructed to be used like a cell phone charger. The statement made by Ben about the number of times it needs to be plugged and unplugged is not accurate, and not based on anything aside from his desire to try and help out with tickets.

Oh no, I was resting my stick on my lap and using a shortish cable that was taught between my computer and the board, and it slipped. It wasn’t anything that I would consider damage done in a way that is consistent with wear and tear.

like i said, walking disaster factory

I will dig into these again this weekend. We did set up 6 set ups at Combo Breaker, plugged and unplugged many times without issue in sticks, but I will do some testing and if someone has boards they need replaced let me know. The 6 pin is an icsp, we did not offer documentation because there was no intent on needing that connection. However programmers are super cheap if you want to use that option.

That’s what I figured, but I figured it wouldn’t hurt to ask. If you have the pinout, that would be awesome.

[XLR8R]

Hi all,

I’m new with modding fightsticks and this is the first time i try this.
So i’m wondering if you can help me out with the issues im facing.

I have the following parts:

• Mad catz Te2 (xbox one)
• 8 smoke sanwa buttons
• kaimana mini break out
• kaimana mini 8 button led kit
• 20-pin harnas

So what I did so far is:

• replaced the buttons
• added the leds
• put the kaimana mini on the breakout
• hooked up the 20pin to the kaimana mini and to the 8 buttons.

Then I tested the kaimana mini via usb, and i was able to configure it, and the leds are working as I want to.

After that i connected the standard mad catz button cables to the breakout.
but with the mcte2 you have a 2 wire for each button, while on the break out you have 2 grounds and 1k,2k,3k,4k and 1p,2p,3p,4p.

When i connect the p and k cables, Im wondering what to do with the ground connections, i tried adding the 4 grounds to the ground in, but then my leds give all wrong colors.
When i only add 1 ground cable it still shows messed up colors.

How do i rewire the mcte2 harnas to the kaimana breakout?
Also, where do i get power for the kaimana and how do i wire it to the kaimana?

Thanks for your help.

[JRDIBBS]

Hi all,

I’m new with modding fightsticks and this is the first time i try this.
So i’m wondering if you can help me out with the issues im facing.

I have the following parts:

• Mad catz Te2 (xbox one)
• 8 smoke sanwa buttons
• kaimana mini break out
• kaimana mini 8 button led kit
• 20-pin harnas

So what I did so far is:

• replaced the buttons
• added the leds
• put the kaimana mini on the breakout
• hooked up the 20pin to the kaimana mini and to the 8 buttons.

Then I tested the kaimana mini via usb, and i was able to configure it, and the leds are working as I want to.

After that i connected the standard mad catz button cables to the breakout.
but with the mcte2 you have a 2 wire for each button, while on the break out you have 2 grounds and 1k,2k,3k,4k and 1p,2p,3p,4p.

When i connect the p and k cables, Im wondering what to do with the ground connections, i tried adding the 4 grounds to the ground in, but then my leds give all wrong colors.
When i only add 1 ground cable it still shows messed up colors.

How do i rewire the mcte2 harnas to the kaimana breakout?
Also, where do i get power for the kaimana and how do i wire it to the kaimana?

Thanks for your help.

The TE2 is not common ground at the button layer, which is the reason its not working as you expect it, but it is on the PCB. You need to solder1 wire from any of the GNDS on the kaimana mini to a GND on the TE2s PCB. For power you need to solder wires from the USB power and ground on the TE2 and stick those into the Kmini.

The easiest way is to buy @“Jasen Hicks” EZ MOD, since it has the 20 pin header you can just stick the Kmini into it.

[Jasen_Hicks]

The XB1 TE2 is not common ground and its a bit more complicated than JR is saying, you can’t just add a single ground wire with the button signals.

The easiest way to add lights is an LVT3 for the XB1 TE2, from ParadiseArcadeShop.com

A better way is to add the TE2 EZ MOD, Brook UFB, and then the Kaimana Mini. It removes all of the goofy non-common ground stuff and for about the same price gives you all the major console functions with one stick and LED functionality.

[XLR8R]

Hi,

Since the lvt3 was out of stock i opted for the kaimana board.

So as you said, the easiest is the ez mod and brook ufb?
I saw those were for preorder? Any idea when they will be available?

The other route is soldering, which I might consider since I only use the stick on my Xbox one, and maybe on my pc, once the support in Killer Instinct is provided.
Can you show me with pictures what I need to solder with each other?

Thanks a lot for your help.

[Jasen_Hicks]

Soldering wont help in the TE2 XBOX ONE setup, its NOT common ground. I haven’t pinned it all out, but its not quite as simple as just connecting power and ground then passing through the button signals.

The EZ MOD boards and Brook UFB combos should be shipping at the end of the month. The retailers should have them on hand shortly (since they sourced them from me :))

[XLR8R]

Ok. Then I have to go that route.

How do I connect the kaimana and the 20 pin harnas to the brook ufb?

[filphil]

Ok. Then I have to go that route.

How do I connect the kaimana and the 20 pin harnas to the brook ufb?

I think fundando on YouTube made a video for that. He has a series for the kaimana series of leds

[bibione]

Hi everyone !
I am kind of new with Kaimana stuff and I would like some help regarding coding and software
First, I have just received my Kaimana mini/breakout with all the leds and wires, I think It will be ok for plugging everything. But what is the first step for software ? I am a little bit scared of messing with it and burn all this tiny thing.
I can’t find a tutorial or a step by step for first user for Kaimana mini… And PAS sent me it with no explanation at all. I thought there would be a cd or something to help me but no.
So It would be great if someone could help me.

Hope it make sense, as my english is not as good as I would like.

Thank you

[fundando]

Ok. Then I have to go that route.

How do I connect the kaimana and the 20 pin harnas to the brook ufb?

If you end up going the EZ mod route there is no real need for the harness. Just put the Kaimana mini between the Brook UFB and the 20 pin cable that goes to the EZ mod board.

Hi everyone !
I am kind of new with Kaimana stuff and I would like some help regarding coding and software
First, I have just received my Kaimana mini/breakout with all the leds and wires, I think It will be ok for plugging everything. But what is the first step for software ? I am a little bit scared of messing with it and burn all this tiny thing.
I can’t find a tutorial or a step by step for first user for Kaimana mini… And PAS sent me it with no explanation at all. I thought there would be a cd or something to help me but no.
So It would be great if someone could help me.

Hope it make sense, as my english is not as good as I would like.

Thank you

Click the link in my signature to see the full installation tutorial.

[bibione]

Thank you Fundando, I have already seen your videos (and that’s why I wrote that plugging might be ok ).
But my questions are for the software. Maybe if I plug my kaimana to my computer, I will find my answer in it.
I found this : http://www.mightyjrmods.com/kaimana-guide , I understand it is based on Arduino software, and this software puts my code in the kaimana. Am I right ? If so, I will follow it and might come back to you if I need.

Thanks

Edit : found this :

I think I see better now…

Another question : does anyone knows how to make different animations and put them in the code ? In this video, the guy just change the layout with a button combo :

edit2 : sorry for the big videos snaps

[fundando]

Thank you Fundando, I have already seen your videos (and that’s why I wrote that plugging might be ok ).
But my questions are for the software. Maybe if I plug my kaimana to my computer, I will find my answer in it.
I found this : http://www.mightyjrmods.com/kaimana-guide , I understand it is based on Arduino software, and this software puts my code in the kaimana. Am I right ? If so, I will follow it and might come back to you if I need.

Thanks

You did not watch the whole video. This link puts you right at the timecode for the programming steps.

[bibione]

Well you’re right :s shame on me
As it was speaking about panzer, I think I stopped the video before it gets to the coding part… (I will use my kaimana in a bartop). Just two questions : the port is always as you describe (Arduino Leonardo) ? the j2 have 2 leds (A & B)so I actually have 10 buttons*2 leds=20 leds that can be animated separately (if so, I don’t understand the interest) ?

Any ideas for changing layout by just a combination of buttons ?

Thanks

[JRDIBBS]

Well you’re right :s shame on me
As it was speaking about panzer, I think I stopped the video before it gets to the coding part… (I will use my kaimana in a bartop). Just two questions : the port is always as you describe (Arduino Leonardo) ? the j2 have 2 leds (A & B)so I actually have 10 buttons*2 leds=20 leds that can be animated separately (if so, I don’t understand the interest) ?

Any ideas for changing layout by just a combination of buttons ?

Thanks

The port may change depending on which USB port you plug it to. Just make sure that you always select it from the top menu before uploading code. As for changing layouts, what do you mean?

[bibione]

Hello
In the second vidéo I posted, maybe I am wrong, but around 2:50 I understand the user changes his settings by pressing UP and another button at the same time and validates a new configuration with one of the action buttons.
Just wonder how he makes it.

[shintitan]

Hi

I have the TE2 ultra street 4 edition for PS4/PS3. Will this chip work the stock PCB and what do I need to get to make a solder less free Led button and shaft?

Thank you

[JRDIBBS]

Hello
In the second vidéo I posted, maybe I am wrong, but around 2:50 I understand the user changes his settings by pressing UP and another button at the same time and validates a new configuration with one of the action buttons.
Just wonder how he makes it.

You need to tinker around with the Kaimana to get how it works but basically you can add an “animation” input that sets a flag then on the main loop depending on the flag it will execute certain code.