From my view (I’m a decent, but not a very good player):
Akuma - Fireballs (air 80% / ground 20%), teleporting and flowchart combo all day… annoying.
Blanka - I should leave… I will never get the trick to rush him down.
C.Viper - Easy win most of the time.
Cammy - Don’t jump at her. DON’T. Let her attack you and punish her hard!
Cody - Average or good player I should not underestimate.
Dan - Noob or a good player who tries to troll me.
Deejay - See Cody.
El Fuerte - Random scrub who will try to spam splash.
Evil Ryu - Probably a good player who knows some very damaging combos.
Fei Long - Shit. He will destroy me.
Gen - Noob or outstanding ruler I should respect.
Gouken - Spamming random hadokens all day which actually kills my patience. And why the hell do his air hadokens hit me when I’m on the ground?
Guile - Flowchart: Slow fireball -> attack or turtle -> wait -> special kick all day. Is there any guile player with another fighting style around?
Guy - This matchup is actually fun, because he cannot spam, has no fireballs and will not turtle. Therefore he must be a good player!
Hakan - Abuses lack of matchup knowledge of the playerbase to troll them.
Ibuki - Easy win or vortex whore.
Juri - See Cody.
Ken - Casuals/Flowcharts/Kara-masters.
M.Bison - Don’t get on my nerves with your f*cking stomps.
Makoto - NEVER underestimate.
Oni - Slashers, ridiculously obvious air demon baits.
Ryu - Decent flowchart player
Sagat - Either noob or perfect zoner I cannot get in.
Sakura - Noob or combo whore.
Seth - See Sakura.
T-Hawk - Flowchart grabber I mostly lose to with gief.
Vega - Excessive wall-huggers. This matchup is no fun, no matter which character I chose and no matter if I win or lose.
Yang - Come to daddy zangief my friend.
Yun - Come to daddy zangief my friend.
Zangief - I hate you for chosing a mirror match.
Ryu= Bracing for Medium Punch Medium Punch Sweep and Mash DP in combos. Boring times.
Ken= Jab Jab Jab Kara Throw. Mash DP after tatsu. More boring times.
Akuma = Just a frustrating match, no matter how they play it.
Sagat = Most basic character, another boring fight.
Gouken = I have one high level Gouken I play so this fight I’m actually kind of afraid of. Huge damage, and smart counters make it hard.
Adon = RISING JAGUAR x 999
Blanka = I will never suspect you walking backwards is going to mean your going to do a Blanka Ball wolololo
Balrog = Character for people who don’t know how to play at a low level. High level its a really good match.
Cammy = Respect to my Cammy bros, but yawn if you mirror me.
Cody = Where did my health go?
Chun-li = Herp Derp my crouch tech leads into Ultra herp derp
C.Viper= Execution isn’t impressive if everything you do has such a massive reward for relatively safe setups.
Dan = Why play this game is you aren’t going to take it seriously. Taunt matches aren’t funny.
DeeJay = Why do you keep trying to cross me up?
Sim= Brave player to play sim in this metagame.
Dudley= Really over this character, very few good dudleys, just people who throw out ex machine gun blow full screen.
Honda= Same as Balrog. Great at high levels, so stupid at low levels.
Elf= Very cute, but I’m not going to bother rematching for a 50/50 outcome match.
Evil Ryu = Stop playing him exactly like Ryu. Honestly, just try the axe kick jab link, its not hard and will totally maximize your damage output.
Fei Long= The ultimate herp derp.
Gen = If you spend more time in Crane stance than Mantis stance you should stop playing.
Guile = Okay fight now that he doesnt get ex sonic booms anymore. Anyone still playing Guile is a decent player.
Guy = Interesting fight, quirky player but too many rely on Ex Hurricane Kick to get out of trouble.
Hakan = Cute, but if you are going to mash 360 play Zangief. If not, play another character.
Ibuki = Cute mixups, but no im afraid you do need to know a bit more than just the vortex.
Juri = You can fireball / jump back safe divekick me all day, but sooner or later you are going to be trapped in the corner.
Abel = I like this fight, you can really tell the difference between a good Abel and a shit one.
M.Bison = Yawn. Another crutch character for low skills, but at a high level I can respect you.
Makoto = Where were you in Super? Oh that’s right, until Japan says shes top tier you wont touch her eh?
Oni = There is more to oni than cross up slash, please at least try
Rose = Footsies nightmare if the player is good. If not its a free match.
Rufus = Good Rufus’s are really fun. If not its a free match. If you are getting anti aired on your dive kicks you are playing him wrong.
Sakura = It’s not really a mixup if you just jab and run under me every single time after Ex Hurricane
Seth = Your like another version of Viper, just get to have your way with me while I have to guess : (
T.Hawk = Only someone who actually studies the game would play T Hawk, so it makes me a little wary
Vega = Bracing for random wall dives. If not, you got my respect.
Yang = Kind of interesting, but you aren’t that much better than a yun player.
Yun = You cant just pick yun and win, you actually do have to learn some bnbs.
Zangief = GREEN HAND WHIFF INTO SPD? I NEVER SUSPECTED THIS.
I don’t judge players by their characters alone but by the first move they do when the match starts:
Abel roll, Boxer dash punch, Sagat backdash, Ken step kick, Blanka ball/slide, Dudley ducking, Makoto f.dash, shoto jump back, Bison stomp etc… when I see these things I just think “free”.
Akuma: Going to “vortex” me with random sweeps into cross-up Tatsu and air scoops. yawn
C. Viper: This player is going to Thunder Knuckle in at least half of my strings.
Fei: Going to counter hit me, fly across the screen, and successfully Rekka one of my pokes and kill me.
Sakura: Going to counter hit me out of something and kill me.
Seth: Oh, Seth mirror.
Yun: Going to counter hit me out of something and kill me.
Yang: Going to counter hit me out of something and kill me.
Everyone else: Going to do their most punishable reversal on the first knockdown with no intention of cancelling it.
We’re only tier whores to them when we win. What they won’t admit is that they are ctrl-c’ing the Makoto forum’s OCD-like discussions on shit like character wake up frame data. We the day laborers of IV. Doing all this difficult work no one else is willing to do and getting hated on when someones car gets stolen.
Ryu= jab, jab, low forward, fireball.
Ken= step kick, crossup tatsu, kara throw
Akuma = Jump back fireball, fish for sweeps, random demon flips
Sagat = mash HK and mash DP
Gouken = counter gimmicks
Adon = jaguarkickseverywhere.png
Blanka = slide, ball, crossup electricity. When in doubt, mash 4f ultra
Balrog = 2.5f jabs and headbutt gimmicks.
Cammy = LOOK AT ME I CAN PRESS BUTTONS.
Cody = press every button, mash on 3f short
Chun-li = backdash, sweep, sweep, sweep, sweep, sweep
C.Viper = I dont need footsies.
Dan = dan kicks into throw/dp mixup
DeeJay = hopscotch the character
Sim= MASH THROW ALL DAY
Dudley= He’ll never block my DP after I do machine gun blow
Honda= PRESS ALL MY NORMALS ARBITRARILY.
Elf= More tolerable than Viper
Evil Ryu = jab, jab, low forward, fireball
Fei Long= .PRESS ALL MY NORMALS ARBITRARILY.
Gen = oga everywhere, cant into hands
Guile = sonic boom, press some punch button, sonic boom again.
Guy = spam elbow or do fullscreen run into slide or overhead
Hakan = fullscreen slides
Ibuki = Can’t time the kunais right. Fullscreen neckbreakers.
Juri = divekicks, fullscreen fireballs that never reach me, mash ex pinwheel
Abel = step kick into laggy normals.
M.Bison = mash on crouch tech into scissor kick
Makoto = jump around, press random normals and do random specials.
Oni = all of these gimmicks can be blocked you know.
Rose = cr.mp, spiral, slide, cr.mp spiral, backdash away.
Rufus = dive kick dive kick dive kick, mash ex messiah with 3 bars
Sakura = spam safe huricane kicks
Seth = EVERYONE THINKS THEY’RE POONGKO
T.Hawk = WHY DOES THAT CONDOR DIVE CROSS ME UP AND WHY CAN IT WHIFF RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME
Vega = cr.mp cr.mp cr.mp cr.mp
Yang = mash on st.jab til it hits
Yun = FULLSCREEN REGULAR LUNGES, CR.MP ACTIVE FRAMES SO GREAT, BNB CONSISTS OF 4 JABS AND MP INTO DP.
in vanilla i would go to a tourney, and dudes would be shaking my hand telling me nice fei, ive never played a decent one before etc.
now i just get a look of disgust
funny how attitudes change according to what that list/japan says. like sagats been flying under the radar since vanilla. just wait for the hate train to roll back up on ole’ one eye in a few weeks
In retrospect, Fei was always a good character ever since Vanilla. He was just underplayed because of better characters at the time (who later got nerfed) and him being console exclusive.
Remember when Justin used Fei back at Seasons Beatings 2009?
Thing is, if you hum and ho over the changes, there’s nothing game changing in there aside from the jab +1. It’s everyone else that has the problem. He’s been quite well balanced, they just fucked everyone else up.
anybody <1000 I tend to think “homeboy is gonna be free”
Over 1000
Ryu - He’s gonna abuse that low forward with combos
Ken - Random Shoryukens and throws all day long
Chun-Li - I’m screwed
Akuma - gonna spam that air fireball
Balrog - he’s either gonna mash that jab or I’m getting my ass kicked
Bison - Here come the stomps
Guile, Dee Jay - turtle and throw out SB/AS
Yun, Yang, Fei Long - Tier whore
Viper, Makoto, Ibuki - Fuck this shit I quit
Dan - Who the hell uses Dan?!
Gen - Oh shit this nigga serious
El Fuerte - Oh boy the Mexican Forrest Gump
Rufus - Someone is actually using Rufus. They have to be good.
Seth - Poongko plays Xbox?
Vega - Throw spamming and jumping all over the place
Juri - Here comes the female Korean version of Yun and Yang
E. Ryu, Oni - They’re gonna try and play em like Ryu and Akuma. I just know it.
Sakura - short Tatsumaki spam coming up
Abel - Rollie Pollie Ollie with hair
Adon - Jaggah Kick, Jaggah Tooth, Liiising Jaguar all day long
Sagat - See E.Ryu and Oni
Everybody else - attack, throw, repeat
Justins Fei was really bad compared to top Feis currently, It really was just Daigo not used to the character.
Edit: Most people hate Fei because he didn’t get dragged into hell like their characters did in AE, also i’m pretty definitely sure Capcom didn’t know that Fei was strong in super otherwise he wouldn’t have got that +1 on stlp, but no complained about him back then when they were re-balancing, why didn’t anyone bitch about his rekkas or other tools he had im pretty sure Capcom would have nerfed him.Even then people act like theres loads of Fei’s now how many Fei Long players do you see at a major compared to any other character about 1-3.
good or bad is dependant on the characters that are in the game with him. at the time, other characters were much better.
also, those not in the know tend to look over all the fixes that went into fei between vanilla and super. there were still hitbox tweaks in addition to the small changes to his frame data
Seth/Juri: The fuck is a walk?
Ibuki: Will vortex on knockdown.
Makoto: See Seth/Juri. Wakeup U2 if you’re standing right next to them.
Sagat: Tiger Shots with roundhouse AA. If you get close: Standing RH (hit or miss) > Tiger knee, like clockwork.
Akuma: Jump back fireball. Random EX demon flip. Teleport on wakeup every time if you’re close.
Ken: Air Tatsu > sweep. step kick > low forward > fireball. Will mash DP during hitstun after the 3rd combo.
Balrog: Turn punch through fireballs from mid/fullscreen away. Wakeup headbutt, cause what’s the worse that can happen?
Yun: Back dash, lunge punch. Up kicks on wakeup all day. Spam palm for meter.
Yang: Plays him like Yun, but prefers him over the other cause he “takes more skill”.
Oni: EX chop drop on your wakeup; mash Dp on his.
Evil Ryu: "He’s just like normal ryu. Y he no hav normal ryu life?"
Ryu color 1:“I am the true ryu.” Start the match off with a hadoken. Walk up grabs.
Ryu color 6: “I am daigo, except I jump alot.” Best combo: forward fierce > shoryu.
Ryu color 10: “I am evil ryu”. Never have more than one EX bar.
all other Ryus: Jump back and shoot plasma. Blockstring > throw and mash DPs.
Gief: throw out random greenhands to move forward.
T.Hawk: will buffer 360s during hitstun.
Chunli: Never afraid to jump in. Will crossup flip kick on your wakeup.
Cody: Neutral jump fierce, EX ruffian, and lots of zonk knuckles.
Guy: "Cause if I lose, it’s because of the character, not the player."
Dan: “Cause if I wanted to win, I would’ve picked Hakan”.
Cammy: Jump back EX Hooligan from full screen against projectile characters. Whiff grab, walk a little bit, grab again.
Fei: EX CW > back dash > rekka.
Gouken: Has to do something on wakeup other than block.
Bison: Psycho Slides. Headstomp/Devil’s reverse if you throw stuff. 10000BP is probably a turbo user.
Honda: Neutral Jumps alot.
Guile: Jump in, Mash grab in the air, then some more on the ground. SB on your wakeup after throw.
Deejay: Never walks forward.
Abel: full screen wheel kicks, jump-ins and rolling on wakeup. "It’s OK, I haz U2."
Adon: empty jump-in throw. Standing roundhouse (hit or miss) > Jaguar Kick like clockwork. Must be a Muy Thai thing.
